new stupid uk law there probably bringing out

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:18 pm

found this guys, heard about it this morning, what do u all think, should we worry?
i cant be botherd to read it all yet lol

Quote:

People who illegally download films and music will be cut off from the internet under new legislative proposals to be unveiled next week.

Internet service providers (ISPs) will be legally required to take action against users who access pirated material, The Times has learnt.

Users suspected of wrongly downloading films or music will receive a warning e-mail for the first offence, a suspension for the second infringement and the termination of their internet contract if caught a third time, under the most likely option to emerge from discussions about the new law.

Broadband companies who fail to enforce the “three-strikes” regime would be prosecuted and suspected customers’ details could be made available to the courts. The Government has yet to decide if information on offenders should be shared between ISPs Six million broadband users are estimated to download files illegally every year in this country in a practice that music and film companies claim is costing them billions of pounds in lost revenue annually.

Britain’s four biggest internet providers – BT, Tiscali, Orange and Virgin Media – have been in talks with Hollywood’s biggest studio and distribution companies for six months over a voluntary scheme.

Parallel negotiations between Britain’s music industry and individual internet providers have been dragging on for two years.

Major sticking points include who will arbitrate disputed allegations, for example when customers claim to have been the victim of “wi-fi piggybacking”, in which users link up to a paid-for wireless network that is not their own. Another outstanding disagreement is how many enforcements the internet companies will be expected to initiate and how quickly warning e-mails would be sent.

International action in the US and France, which is implementing its own “three-strikes” regime, has increased the pressure on British internet companies and stiffened the Government’s resolve.

Ministers will make an explicit commitment to legislate with the launch next week of a Green Paper on the creative industries. A draft copy, obtained by The Times, states: “We will move to legislate to require internet service providers to take action on illegal file-sharing.” A consultation paper setting out the options is promised within months.

A spokesman for the Internet Service Providers Association said it remained hopeful that agreement over a voluntary agreement could be reached: “Every right-thinking body knows that self-regulation is much the better option in these areas.”

Roz Groome, vice-president of antipiracy for NBC Universal, welcomed the prospect of new laws. “We welcome the signal from Government that it values the health of the creative industries and takes seriously the damage caused by widespread online copyright infringement. We call upon ISPs to take action now. They must play their part in the fight against online piracy and work with rights owners to ensure that ISPs’ customers do not use their services for illegal activity. Piracy stifles innovation and threatens the long term health of our industry.”

Ed Vaizey, the Shadow Arts Minister, said: “David Cameron called on the internet providers to address this issue last summer. The credibility of the Government’s latest threat is undermined by the fact that ministers have spent so many years dithering on whether to legislate.”

The commitment forms part of a Green Paper on the creative industries entitled The World’s Creative Hub to be launched by Andy Burnham, the Culture Secretary, and Gordon Brown next week.

Other high-profile elements include a pledge that children will be entitled to five hours of culture a week overseen by a new youth culture trust. The pledge will give children the right to learn a musical instrument, visit art galleries and museums and even make films.

Other pledges include setting up a new international conference modelled on Davos, entitled the World Creative Economy Forum, and supporting a new £200 million film centre at the South Bank in London. A spokeswoman for the Department for Culture, Media and Sport said: “Early drafts of our creative economy programme document were circulated to stakeholders for comment. The content and proposals for the strategy have been significantly developed since then and a comprehensive plan to bolster the UK’s creative industries will be published shortly. We will not comment on the content of the leaked document.”

source : http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/tech_and_web/the_web/article3353387.ece

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:21 pm

You do know that is 2 years old? (February 12, 2008) This is last months and a bit more positive. http://www.readwriteweb.com/archives/uk_nixes_internet_ban_for_p2p_infringement.php

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:23 pm

djdezzie wrote:

You do know that is 2 years old? (February 12, 2008)

i dont actaully, only heard about it this morning

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:27 pm

Thats quite funny cause it says the date above the header Laughing

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:32 pm

Might wannt to do a forums search as well next time.
I wrote about this last November...

https://isohunt.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=331189&highlight=internet+law

Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 4:00 pm

They tried this last year in Ireland. Some big music/film companies, scared one of the ISP's (Eircom) into agreeing to cut off people that were identified as downloading copyrighted material.

It didnt look good for downloading. But then, few of the other ISP's said no way and stood firm. So then Eircom backed down on their agreement, as then obviously everyone would jump ship to the ISP's that are not part of that agreement.

So basically the music/film companys, need to get all ISP's to agree. It was still ongoing last i heard, but the ISP's that are standing firm are pretty sure they cant be forced into it, legally.

I hope.... Smile

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:42 pm

It might be an old story but I thinik it's quite generous of them to give you some warnings. Leats we know where we stand. I for one will will be filling me boots till I get number two. I't would just encourage you to make the most of it while ye can Laughing

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 2:44 pm

Well, its already been passed ; its now back in the hands of the houses or parliament, in two weeks - it will probably be LAW.

It's bullsh*t - its a libery of our civil and human rights.

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:12 pm

I downloaded Ip Man, does this concern him ?

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:21 pm

robmead wrote:

I downloaded Ip Man, does this concern him ?

best kung fu movie EVER Very Happy

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:22 pm

I concur .......

Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2010 4:31 pm

Old,
But always good to know.

Laughing

Although am not from the U.K.

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:11 pm

DaftThatPunk wrote:

Old,
But always good to know.

Laughing

Although am not from the U.K.

It's not old when the bill has practically just been made law (it will be law within two weeks!)

Posted: Fri Mar 19, 2010 9:18 pm

MrXile wrote:

DaftThatPunk wrote:

Old,
But always good to know.

Laughing

Although am not from the U.K.

It's not old when the bill has practically just been made law (it will be law within two weeks!)

It is all here to read about
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/ld200910/ldbills/044/10044.i-iii.html Sad

Lord Mandelson Evil or Very Mad

Posted: Sat Mar 20, 2010 5:21 am

It's another example of our brave govmt's cringing bootlicking of the media conglomerates.
Its the EXACT equivalent of ordering the Post Office to read your mail if they suspect a crime - and then cutting off all mail to the entire household.

No court proceedings, no appeal, no common law or civil rights whatsoever. Its all about control, total and complete control.

But having already made open-air photography illegal in the UK it is clear there is pretty well nothing the Powers-that-Be will not stoop to to keep us all under the thumb.
And as bad as seems now, all indications are it will gradually continue to get worse and worse. If they had DARED to impose all these laws on one go, there would have been riots and revolution. So they are doing it slowly, gently tightening the vice.

It does make me wonder: if your ISP cuts off your broadband, then what reason do you have to pay for it?

IMHO i suggest everyone who is prepared to risk it, - and i do this anyway out of principle -
**DO NOT SIGN 12/18 MONTH CONTRACTS**
Once the initial 12 month is up, DO NOT sign up again.
The contract -for the customer -is really not worth the time it takes to read; it provides NOTHING for the customer, (except a small discount on fees) but all sorts of clauses and catch phrases for them.

(I can only speak about the UK -BT in fact, but i think the telecommunications biz is another global cartel, and they all act pretty much the same)

The newly amended rules allow ISP's to CHARGE you money for the whole remaining period if YOU seek to terminate early, so its best to have NO formal contract.

In theory, according to the numbers who (allegedly) download 'illegal' files, if they cut them all off they will lose a huge chunk of revenue if everyone defies the maternal fornicators.

(sorry, i did mean to keep this short.)