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Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 2:51 am

um there are threads about the SOPA bill (which got dismissed) in the lounge forum should go have a read there

Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 3:01 am

true kilbluff....and I considered to link that but then thought it was quite a reasonable question.
After all even with SOPA in the re write it is of interest how such legislation might impact IH's ability to remain as open and informative as it is. All of us have our opinions but those of the janitor are close to the bone.
IH has a lot of issues already and bills similar to SOPA are not going to go away anytime soon and if any bill similar to the now shelved SOPA is passed how might that impact this great site.?

Anyways......kois12 the threads on SOPA are worth a look through.

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:23 pm

abrogard wrote:

I think sharing your copy of copyrighted material is okay.

I think so for three reasons:

1. It should be yours to do with as you wish.

2. The copyright laws are plain wrong.

3. People will do it anyway and laws should reflect what people will do.

I was with you right up to #3. Speeding is against the law, regardless that people constantly exceed the speed limit. Don't look for the laws to evaporate simply because everyone disregards them.

My biggest bone of contention with the dogging of torrent sites regarding copywrite infringements is.... LIBRARIES.

An author writes a book. The library purchases a single copy, or perhaps a few copies. That book is then checked out and read by thousands of persons. Did the author get paid thousands of times what his or her normal royalties would be for the sale of that book to a library?? NO. And... he or she never will. SO.... why should movie studios and music studios receive any different treatment than authors?

Another situation to consider.... Someone buys a DVD, then loans it to a friend who wants to watch it. Should the DVD owner have to pay for that DVD twice?? NO. He/she is doing with his/her own property what they wish (going back to abrogard's point #1). People have been doing this for as far back as I can remember and it isn't ever going to stop.

So, my advice to the movie and music studios is STFU, take what you can get through legitimate channels and BE HAPPY. Evil or Very Mad

Posted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 10:34 pm

In many respects you just repeated item 3.
i follow the argument of speeding but in a csae as copyright law when only the tiniest percentage dictate a law to 99% of the population then the law needs amendment. The law as it stands is no longer relevent to the present day society or its tools of communication and distribution.
The interent is todays library. Our entry is money paid to the ISP for admittance to the information available and can be shared.
At present the old and unsuitable laws are being used to censor and prohibit anything that is digital. You own a book but you want it digital then pay a premium fee to download the very same book. Scan the book you own for your ipad or kindle and use software to make a pdf so you can read it on the go in a digital device and you have effectively broken the law is their present argument. Go the other way and print it out then you have also been a bad boy. Moving digital data from one source to another is often a breaking of the law as CR holders increasingly use software to restrict this process. Circumventing software is illegal according to their law.

Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2012 12:27 pm

Every member of any organization suing isoHunt has probably at one point or another downloaded something illegally off the internet. We users of the internet beg you to stop the hypocrisy; and let he who's without sin cast the first stone.

Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2012 5:04 am

so like is there some kind of petition, voting thing to help isohunt like wikipedia? i really love your website Sad

and i really really wanna help....

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 8:02 pm

Well yes and no.

There are petitions concerning legislation, depending on where you resided.
Recently in the USA was the PIPA and SOPA
then in Europe the ACTA
and in Canada recently the C - 30

All you need to do is be involved. Know what your government is doing. Sign the according petitions. Smile

As for a save isohunt petition, none exists. Also is not needed, we index torrents like google index's web pages.... Smile

Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 11:20 pm

coolgyal wrote:

so like is there some kind of petition, voting thing to help isohunt like wikipedia? i really love your website Sad

and i really really wanna help....

Thanks for the support coolgyal. At the moment any court action against ioshunt is just smoke and mirrors. To this day the US, and other countries, do not have any legislation in regard to secondary copyright infringements so they come up with half backed accusations in the hope that Gary and the team will roll over. If you read back through this thread you will see the guys are far from doing that, in fact they are taking the fight to them

Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:50 am

if your gonna make a movie and cant take what happens with DVDs then dont put the movie on DVD, its that simple Rolling Eyes

Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:19 pm

I is a spammer Clue Hammer

Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:21 pm

I cannot state that I am entirely up to speed with all the issues or arguments surrounding copyright law. However, I see that it is likely to affect me at some point or other. I read the article provided and I read the posts of those who seemingly have an interest and have what it takes to state their points. Bravo BTW! My opinion is limited and quite simple. Here it is...

I cannot see morally how I am wrong for taking freely given information from sites on the internet. If this is true then I have been a guilty person most of my life. I have been borrowing, trading, sharing, or what have you every form of media I can think of since I was a child. In those days we shared beta cassettes between friends.

The way I see it is simply that those old cassettes have become data via the internet. I pay for the internet...so is it not mine? And when has it ever been wrong to share? I expect that some will point out that I am naive regarding some points; fair enough but this is the way I see it.

If I am bad fine...but I will never see it that way and cannot forsee the day I stop down/uploading.

Thank you for you time.

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 10:36 am

hasjtracker wrote:

"Upload Rate 2163 kB/s, Uploaded bytes:1232.01 GB"

I am doing all i can Very Happy

I wish I have this speed!

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 1:19 pm

well the Copyfight isn't being won by spammers, that's for sure. spamming thru your sigs/avatars/usernames will get you caught.

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Do NOT make usernames with any forms of profanity, racial slurs, sexual orientation or website names

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:33 pm

Dont buy something before you try it.
When hollywood previews use up all the funny or good parts in the movie, then i pay to watch the full thing only to see the same scenes in the previews, followed by the forced laugh of the crowd, i wonder why i wasted money to watch an extended preview. With a torrent, i dont feel gypped when the movie or file sucks. Even when i like something enough to purchase it, ill still download the torrent so i dont wear the discs out. DVD players are trash nowadays.
Do you think your favorite band gets to see much from their record sales? No, they make most of their money touring, doing events and via MERCHANDISE.
My first statement sums it up.... the cd's they turn out now have 1 or 2 good tracks, adn the rest are forced just to get the album out there and selling. Why would i buy a whole CD for 20$ to hear one song it would have taken me 10 minutes to DL and realize i hated.... without having to go back to the store.

Its the media franchises that need to amend their stance... when the caribou move, so do you. They should be adapting for us, not the other way around.
Its stagnant and the prices are unfair, and the royalties are misallocated.
Isohunt always has my support, as i have never once been let down by this site.

Thank you for taking the stance the rest of us cannot.

Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 1:40 pm

bdahrwin wrote:

Dont buy something before you try it.

A good point and one that many of us agree with

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When hollywood previews use up all the funny or good parts in the movie, then i pay to watch the full thing only to see the same scenes in the previews, followed by the forced laugh of the crowd, i wonder why i wasted money to watch an extended preview.

One of the main reasons why the internet has the movie makers running scared. It is not because we download but because they can no longer hide a failure by using a great trailer to promote a bad product.

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With a torrent, i dont feel gypped when the movie or file sucks. Even when i like something enough to purchase it, ill still download the torrent so i dont wear the discs out. DVD players are trash nowadays.

A debatable point. Blaming quality of players is ???. I have through torrents basically made solid purchases and have not wasted money on proucts that were hyped to be good when in fact they were fail.

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Do you think your favorite band gets to see much from their record sales? No, they make most of their money touring, doing events and via MERCHANDISE.

Again......a point that is very grey. Many artists have benefitted from good promotion by the media producers but sadly it is often a case of being lucky to have a good contract. I mentioned elsewhere about TLC the girl band that made mega millions but the artists themselves were bankrupt when they disbanded. Bad contract. The issue for the media and music producers is that they no longer have control. I can play music mix it and promote it via the nets. A professional body to do this on my behalf is no longer a factor.
The chance to become rich via this manner is lower than going through a record company but ultimately more people are choosing this method as it gives them total freedom. many artists are compelled to make what the company and producer see as a profit making jingle.

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My first statement sums it up.... the cd's they turn out now have 1 or 2 good tracks, adn the rest are forced just to get the album out there and selling. Why would i buy a whole CD for 20$ to hear one song it would have taken me 10 minutes to DL and realize i hated.... without having to go back to the store.

I disagree with this particular statement. For several years already the possibility to sample music online has been available. Also for several years now it has been possible to purchase a single track as opposed to the entire CD. itunes like it or not did change the market for consumers. 99cts for a song of choice and not 20$ for the full CD.

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Its the media franchises that need to amend their stance... when the caribou move, so do you. They should be adapting for us, not the other way around.
Its stagnant and the prices are unfair, and the royalties are misallocated.

Agreed 100%. this should have been your 1st sentence as it is the reality of how things stand.

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Isohunt always has my support, as i have never once been let down by this site.

Thank you for taking the stance the rest of us cannot.

Thanks.