Are you taking antidepressing pills?

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 9:56 pm

Hey rightnow im taking prozac(fluoxetine) and i been reading a lot of bad comments about this pills i dont now like the massacre in columbine 1 of the guys who killed like 30ppl and then sucide was taking the same pills, im worried about trying to sucide fortunately here in my country is not easy to get a gun, any of you take pills or something?, i was also worried cuz the other day i watched a video on youtube http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VdkFasjSJ_g Shocked

Posted: Mon Mar 26, 2012 10:30 pm

Suicide tendencies are not generic to Prozac, other anti depression pills also can have the same affect

From wiki -

Antidepressant

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The Food and Drug Administration requires Black Box warnings on all SSRIs, which state that they double suicidal rates

Fluoxetine (Prozac)

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The FDA requires all antidepressants to carry a black box warning stating that antidepressants may increase the risk of suicide

Any side effect a medication can give someone, I am sure to get at least half of them, I have seldom used any medication in my life hence have little tolerance for them, suicidal tendencies are not a given but I have taken a couple of anti depressants and one of them gave me all sorts of morbid thoughts, although I tend to think I was misdiagnosed and do not have depression just "issues" lol.

edit - The reason why Prozac has a bad name, its like the brown snake here in Aus, a lot of ppl believe its the most deadliest snake in Aus buts it not, the Taipan is, the Brown is more common so it tends to kill more ppl. Prozac is the most common antidepressant so it stands to reason it causes the bigger percentage of the problems.

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 12:17 am

First of all I noticed you were having some issues isobrother so I'm glad that you have been seeking help. If you have a script for Prozac that means you have seen a psychiatrist and a doctor. At least in the US you would have to do that to get Prozac. Same in Mexico.....[is that where you're from?].....wondering...

With any antidepressant be sure to give it at least a month and go into it with a positive attitude. I'm not saying that these drugs are placebos but a good attitude focused upon personal improvement helps.

While you are striving to elevate your mental state, do not neglect your body. Now would be a good time to start an exercise routine to tie in with your focus on self improvement. I would suggest something that is fun and takes you outdoors in the fresh air and that you look forward to doing. When you get your get your heart pumping a little bit, your brain might start releasing some Endorphins that work better than Prozac anyway.

I hope you get it all sorted soon as I know you will. If Prozac has negative side effects, then there are other options that will work for you. Talk to your doctor and try not to put too much stock in any U-Tube videos you may happen to be viewing.

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 2:30 am

Prozac has got itself a bad name, hence the 'Re-branding' to Fluxe*****
But, Prozac itself cannot be the single cause for someone to load a 9mm and go blatting everyone in sight, Serious mental instability is the cause of that.
Whatever drug your Dr puts you on will result in some form of negative reviews, it's how it helps you is the key point.
Try doing a few Positive searches on Google etc eg, Positive Prozac review, and disregard the negatives. How You find the drug is what counts, not what some stranger has written, your life is totally different to theirs, therefor, you views will be as different.
If your worried, ask your Dr about Tri-Cyclic antidepressants instead, they cover pain and depression and work really well.

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:35 am

I had a rough couple of years a while ago and i was given fluoxitine (the green and yellow ones!). They made me worse before they made me better but they are not a cure. Never have been, never will be. They just take the edge off.

Seeking help is hard and most of the courses seem stupid but some of them are good. One in particular we have here in N.Ireland is called CBT (Cognitive Brain Therapy) and is a lot of work and really really hard, It pushes your confidences or lack thereof to the limits. But it made me view almost everything from a different, much more self aware perspective.

Clinical depression is a bitch but you are not alone in that boat. I'll not assume i know how to help you because everyone's triggers are different but I came through and now I'm probably the most chillaxed, content man on earth and i don't take fluoxitine anymore. So keep at it bro and feel free to PM me if you want to ask any questions (I don't really wanna talk about it on a forum!)

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 9:55 am

All anti-depressants have this effect dude. It's due to them working in two ways. One is to get your motivation up, making it more likely for you to get out of bed. The other way is to improve your mood. Unfortunately, the mood effect takes about 2 weeks to begin, whereas the motivation happens within a few days.

The result is that you still feel miserable but are motivated to do something about it. For some, the only thing they see that is possible is to commit suicide. If you hang in there for a few weeks, the mood effect will start to kick in. I was on Citalopram then Sertraline for 2 years and have just begun coming off it... I know the path these things take. I've studied them as part of my degree and walked the path myself, you need anything give me a PM. I'll do my best to help, as I'm sure anyone here would too!

Good to see you back about mate, keep going.

EDIT:

A few issues with your post imouse

imouse wrote:

Prozac has got itself a bad name, hence the 'Re-branding' to Fluxe*****

Fluoxetine is the drug name, Prozac is the brand name. The company who first made it had it exclusive for 10 years, traded it under Prozac because it sounds better. Once the 10 years are up all companies can sell the drug, but only under the actual drug name, Fluoxetine. Same with Sertraline (Lustral), Diazapam (Valium) and Citalopram (Celexa).

imouse wrote:

If your worried, ask your Dr about Tri-Cyclic antidepressants instead, they cover pain and depression and work really well.

Doctors are uneasy with Tri-cyclics due to the much higher and weirder side-effects and are only really used as a last resort nowadays. Docs prefer SSRIs (Selective Serotonin Reuptake Inhibitors) such as Fluoxetine/Citalopram/Sertraline. Tri-cyclics were reduced in use due to a particularly dangerous (but uncommon) side-effect were they could interfere with the heart rhythm, particularly when trying to come off them. SSRI's are much safer and have much more managable side-effects.

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 3:25 pm

Thank you everyone for the support, like 2 months ago i was on a mental institute, for crazy ppl managed by some catholic nuns , i tried sucide there but they druged me, at nights there was some evil ppl over there i just wanted to die there , but i dont now god helped me and im still alive here in my house playing, mmos all day , by the way i play lord of the rings online , if any of u wanna play, i lost the faith in life right now, but i still have ppl that love me , like my family, anyway thanks again.

there is a video on youtube that i watched about a kid that hes mom encouraged him to commit sucide, well thats my case my mom is like that shes so cold with me, i mean i dont need love im a man ,but sometimes i notice that my mom hates me so bad.

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 4:38 pm

I have in years past been on about every flavor of anti depressant anti psychotic there is. Been to a couple funny farms. The last I was on any was about a year ago I gave the quit smoking cigarettes thing a whirl again and wound up being unbearable to be around so for my family's sake took me happy pills for a good 3 months till I started smoking again. The times in my life when I really needed them was to basically counteract the chemical imbalance in my head which was a result of too much hard drug use.

Being depressed does not mean your crazy so don't be hard on yourself about that. Everyone gets depressed at some point in their life. I think it is important to step outside of your self and look at your depression, and determine the facts about it as it concerns you. Example would be are you depressed because of life circumstances or is there an imbalance in your chemistry. When life shits on ya, you just have to trudge though, and tell your self it will get better. Make list of all the crap that brings ya down, and then start to set goals of eliminating the negative and replace with positive things. And don't make the list in you head, write it down, as this is the first step in the right direction in it's self. Positive thoughts produce positive actions.

Back on the subject of meds, If after a month of being on any psyhc medication if you feel it isn't working tell the doc. Prozac is just the standard lets try this first drug. Lots of other good concoctions out there. Another thing to know is it is very important once you start a psyhc med to not quit taking them cold turkey. You have to wean off them or you may very well have a mental melt down. And for the record the all time best anti depressant is.

A doobie a day keeps the bad thoughts away. Wink

Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2012 5:00 pm

JamesHotwire wrote:

A doobie a day keeps the bad thoughts away. Wink

Some would say the opposite to that and say it could start it..

Me I take Fluoxetine some other pills for depression but find talking helps Wink

Anxiety attacks I get are not nice but as I said the talking and pills do help it for me.

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:29 am

Hey, Isobro.

Family resentment is a major part of depression among young people. I thought my mum hated me for years and i was convinced that she wanted me gone and that I was a drain on her. She knew that I was on fluoxitine but I think it's hard for people who haven't been clinically depressed in some degree to understand. So one day when it was all too much I poured my f**kin heart out to her. After that she really made an effort to understand and although it took a long time for her to come round. Eventually she started to understand that i didn't leave the house because i couldn't face it, not because I was addicted to computer games. I don't have much other family apart from her so It really meant a lot to me that she made an effort and now four years on we are very good friends.

I think that maybe the 'mid-life crisis' happens much earlier in today's generation. There is so much pressure to look and act and think "acceptably" that major confidence issues start to occur in the late teens and early to late twenties..... (I'm just assuming that you are somewhere in that age bracket. If not I apologise!). This may not be true for you but i think that was the case for me and many others in the same boat i met at group therapy.

All the best Isobro

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 7:42 am

JamesHotwire wrote:

A doobie a day keeps the bad thoughts away.

For years I used to enjoy pot for recreational purposes with no issues. Then I started to notice that when I came down off of a buzz... I was depressed as hell. I'd fire one up... and I was ok for the next round.

I am sure it has a lot to do with ones body chemistry and all of that happy horse sh*t.. but it threw me for a loop and took me awhile to get over the depression.

Hang in there IsoBrother.. Get some professional help.

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 11:23 am

Glad i've read this thread... Like people here i can understand where you come from with depression, never had it before (Well not as bad as when i was growing up) but this past year i've suffered with it pretty bad.. Been seeing a counsellor for a couple of months which sort of helps i suppose, my work place has been good to me & understanding in letting me have time off work to get my head together!!! been taking diazepam for a few months now which helps with my anxiety/panic attacks (but don't want to get hooked on them, so am tapering off them) & now my doc has put me on sertraline which for the first week made me feel worse, but now its in my system its starting to help me.... Keep with the prozac isobrother as i'm sure you'll feel better once its in your system mate.... As like my sertraline it takes a while to work Wink

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:55 pm

IsoBrother69 wrote:

im still alive here in my house playing, mmos all day

I think this is a part of your problem. If at the end of the day you ask yourself, "what did I accomplish today?" and your answer is: "Well, I made it thru the mines of Moria and am on my way to see Galadriel and gaze into her magic mirror so I have to stay up all nite" then I can understand why you could feel depressed about it. Playing games all day is a way to withdraw from your problems. Is it a symptom of depression or a cause? I think it is a little of both. Gandolf didn't really die in Moria anyway.

You also said this:

IsoBrother69 wrote:

my mom is like that shes so cold with me, i mean i dont need love im a man ,but sometimes i notice that my mom hates me so bad.

If you want for your relationship with your mother to improve then take steps to make it so. Make a list of 5 things you could do for her to show her how much you care and then do just 1 thing every day. Make her a nice dinner, go for a walk at the park, pick flowers out of the neighbor's garden for her. Anything you want-- its your list. I think what would make your mom happiest would be to see you do better. So also make a list of things that you need to accomplish for yourself and let your mom know about what you are doing to get over your depression and include her in it. When you show her that you are trying then I'm confident you will see a difference.
I really think you need more structure. Make a list of goals and then stick to it. Give yourself a reason[s] to feel good about yourself.

Good luck and keep trying.

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:35 pm

glad your still around brother!!!! i know what depression is like!! and yes i like many others have been on pills and yes they are not a complete cure they like said just help to take the edge off!! i had years of insomnia toadd to mine and was in quite a dark place..... so much so i was was put on anger management as i would just tear people apart whom peed me off... and thats not the man i wanted to be but it was the man that was hurting whom has been through a lot! talking.... not talking,pills, therapy, long walks.............. do whatever helps you as there is no two men alike with the problems in our life!! just know there is people out there for you if you do ever need to talk and there are loads of ways to bring yourself forward to help bring back some happy'ness in your life! i threw myself into exercise and it help'd a lot for me!! but everyone to there own!!! it was my form of meditation as i was just focussing on one thing and it help'd to forget about the other things i didnt want to think about! look to the future and what you want in life my friend as its your life and you need to live it in the way that ou want and your the only person who can make it the way that will make you happy!!!!

many a brother and sister on here if you need us!!

Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2012 2:36 pm

my bro was on prozac for years. ill check with him and get back to you. im on Sertraline. it also helps with my anxiety

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sertraline

good to see your fighting mate. i have them thoughts a lot too. stay strong dude.
id stay well away from weed too, really not good when you have problems.

i should say and as aj said other work is needed. iv been diagnosed with PTSD and am receiving psychotherapy as well as the pills.