Religion You Say?

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:13 am

Ban all religion for a year and watch the wars stop ............

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:17 am

robmead wrote:

Ban all religion for a year and watch the wars stop ............

And anyone defying the ban will be shot Laughing

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:18 am

imouse wrote:

robmead wrote:

Ban all religion for a year and watch the wars stop ............

And anyone defying the ban will be shot Laughing

........... with much love

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:56 am

If everyone would get shot for defying the ban, then at least 1/3 of the population would vanish and rid Earth of the Medieval times way of thinking, and also solve the over population crisis. Then there would be peace because you're right (Religions do start wars Sad

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Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:22 pm

I'm religious ..
Religion is not bad. It's the misinterpretation. Guns save people, guns kill too. I can create a logic like.."wars are good as it kills many people and saving food and land for the rest of us." Well that aint making wars any good, neither religion bad. Banning religion is wiping out the whole of humanity (not half, not one third) (do the math), it'll be the final world war. That includes scientists as when their experiment fails they yell "oh sweet Jesus help me"...Maybe the thoughts are medieval, but it's the essence of our origin. It's how you respect your peers, forefathers. If you ever come to India or other religious place, you'll see people are united in the threads of many religions. And in most parts they die out of hunger but they don't kill and rape each other because god is watching.

Edit:- The main topic, I used to hate lady gaga, I used to hate many celebrities. I was wrong and hateful. Not much anymore. Well most people like them for a reason. Lady gaga is some major in piano or something (go google). An artist and dress up for the people to get famous and got famous. I don't hate celebrities anymore. They are rich and famous and you aren't, so I wont criticize celebrities to feel good about myself. If I like the music I listen to or if I don't I listen to something else. Some culture appreciate her style, some don't. No point bashing the religion, celebrities over this anyways..

Posted: Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:01 pm

Its not really religion thats bad, its faith; i would argue faith is the root of evil. Just so happens you cant really have religion without faith. Religion is the symptom, faith the disease

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:42 am

Religion is a brainwashing instrument invented by men and not by a God. I was born a catholic and when I started asking questions and found out all the bull they told me was false, that's when I became an athiest. The ones that were teaching me, told me to stop asking questions and just believe in the catholic religion or I would burn in hell. Now if that's not brainwashing, then I don't know what is. I believe that all religions are the same.

I will not buy any of Lady Gaga's DVDs because she is not my type of entertainer, but she must be good at what she does or else she wouldn't be world renowned. Also she creates jobs for people and that helps the unemployment, that I have nothing against. So if you don't like her, then don't buy her tickets and if you do like her, then by all means buy them if you can afford it.

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:35 am

People are getting less and less religious. I don't believe in a "god". You die. You become worm food. Simple science.. Do you think in a few generations religion will dissipate? Or restructure. But in restructuring would it be contradicting its own foundations?

I was made a catholic via my parents in a church before i could walk....

i believe in the worm food religion.

that is not depressing its life, everything lives, then everything dies. (except starfish, bastards grow new star fish lol)

EDIT: OH and lady gaga? really? I know of death metal bands that would make them cry lol...

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:53 am

Preachin' to the choir here this thread is , love the comments so much i'm going to get outraged by reading up the links earlier posted
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how sad the up-in-arms people are about this, there will always be a .../BettyWhite/BettyBoop/hepburn/monroe/lauper/madonna/gaga/...
someone pushing the envelope to see what they can get away with
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Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 1:11 pm

I don't expect too much from my religion (like"proofs" for most things). I have science for that. "Either religion or science" is a false hoot. I just do a simple, quick prayer and that brings a peace of mind with a faith in the eternal power that it'll bring safety and good luck for my family (yeh that's a bit selfish I know lol). At the same time I get respect from my parents, relatives (like for maintaining the heritage, roots). Have never argued with anyone to make it look superior. Participate in festivals where we eat sweets and other delicious cuisines with fun filled activities. I treat other religions as same as well, been to every religious festivals that's popular. Think about all the festivities, what's the world without them..another boring work day! pff

Religious nutcases are different. They can be the roots of wars, fights. Like a gun in a nutcase's hand is dangerous. Because they get possessed by it. Most of my state's western people are converting, because some other religion's people helping them poor providing monetary, educational, medical etc facilities.

So why not just helping them without the religion conversion?
So why helping them if they don't accept your religion which you think is the right path and brought you free foods in the first place?
^That causes fight because people can't see it as the different sides of a coin.

Point is.. one should not get oversensitive with religion, maintain a balance between science and religion. And he/she can still be an "admirable" religious person and enjoy it.

Posted: Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:00 pm

som ace wrote:

I just do a simple, quick prayer and that brings a peace of mind with a faith in the eternal power that it'll bring safety and good luck for my family (yeh that's a bit selfish I know lol).

Its also 100% baseless, prayer has no effect, thats been proven. You do admit that its a selfish act which it is. The only person effected by prayer is the one doing it, and it comes faith - the great evil of man. I guess im lucky though, i was never indoctrinated into any cults while growing up Wink

Why someone would want to pray to serial killer baffles me as well.

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:57 am

*So what religion favours violence against your fellow man (generally these days), the religious cleric's or whoever want to protect their way of life and culture by banning an over the top singer and if they don't get their way they will resort to violence!? Is that the religious way of the Muslim faith then?*
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That is the way ALL religions behave - the difference is only in degree. Religion is most potent weapon of (mass) destruction ever invented by man.

Almost all wars since the beginning of human race had its origins in religious disputes or propagation of religion.

Religions are curse on humanity. Sad

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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:55 am

I was looking up the difference between Faith and Trust and found an interesting thought.

It is far easier to have faith in God; there are unbelievers who have this. It is a lot harder to exercise trust in Him...

A short analogy (...though based on a real story):

The Great Blondin

In the late 1800's there was a great performer named Jean Francois Gravelot. He was known as "The Great Blondin." He was a "daredevil" of sorts; a tightrope walker specifically.

One of his greatest stunts, involved walking a tightrope high above the world famous Niagara Falls. Blondin performed this death-defying feat more than once, adding elements of difficulty each time. Once he even carried his manager on his back!

Blondin was quite the showman, he had a knack for engaging the crowd, stirring the suspense and excitement. Upon completing one attempt, he asked the crowd if they believed a second attempt would be a successful one. The crowd unanimously agreed it would. Always looking to better his last great feat, Blondin now asked the crowd if they believed he could cross the falls on the tightrope while pushing a wheelbarrow. Having seen his previous stunt, and how seemingly easy it was for him, the crowd had no doubt he could pull off this new, more difficult one. Again, the response was unanimous, the crowd had no doubt "The Great Blondin" could do it!

Blondin was ready to attempt this amazing feat that only he could do, but before he set out on the rope, he had one last question for the crowd: "Which of you will ride in the wheelbarrow?" The crowd was frozen, still, silent. Not a single man or woman responded to his challenge...

All of those people witnessed Blondin cross the falls on the rope. They gained first-hand knowledge of his abilities. They had a well founded belief that he could perform the more difficult stunt. Yet, when it came time to act on those beliefs, they were silent...still. They did not trust him.

Many of us have seen what God can do, and we believe (faith)... when He calls us to "ride" with him (trust), will we sit silent? Will we stand still?...

Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:00 pm

There are a lot of viewpoints in this thread....some disagreements too. This is just how it is.....everyone has his/her own beliefs/ideals/practices/malpractices etc and has a firm grasp that what they do/believe in is correct or makes them happy in some way. Most of the wars and bullshit of the world stems from mankind's inability to display any form of acceptance that the next man has his own beliefs and they may not be the same. Religion is an excuse, a big excuse, because it covers a broad spectrum of people and you can easily seperate people into religious groups. People fight over the same bits of land as they believe it is their "promised land" etc. If one is true, the others must be right. Right? Maybe, maybe not. What if they are all wrong, or all right? I personally dont care much for war or the reasons for it, religious nutcase battles or the reasons for those either. Let people do what they want as long as they are not hurting the next man. Unfortunately, that is not always the case.

I suppose i am an atheist.......but then i dont really mind being right or wrong, i just choose to believe the science/evolution theory because it makes far more sense to me personally than the bible story. I certainly would not condemn somebody because they believed in either a God of some description, or prayer even - this is something they believe in or enjoy/makes them feel good. Rubbishing somebody's ideals to further promote my own does not achieve anything in my eyes, so live and let live i say. But on the other hand......thats just my opinion.....others are bound to have a different one. Am i right? Are they right? Are we both wrong? End of the day, who really gives a flying feck as long as everyone is happy?

Its human nature to disagree and have different opinions.....nobody should ever be made to feel stupid for their beliefs, or ridiculed. Its how wars start, after all. War is bad, healthy competition is good. Fine lines often blurred. I dont mind disagreeing with something, after all if everyone thought the same there would be no individuality left.

So, yeah, bit of a rant in the end....not a lot really achieved but a few opinions either way. Like i keep saying, they could be right, they could be wrong, every person will read them differently. One message is certain though............no butthurt is intended to anyone, so smile and be happy Laughing