Is Vista an OS X clone?

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:42 pm

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:52 pm

No, I dont think so.
Getting ideas from what others got right is just part of the industry.
Many of the features available in Vista are also available in OSX, but many of the features in Vista are also not available in OSX.

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:10 pm

Chicken and egg? Which came first? I know Vista was in developement for a few years, so for it to be a rip off OSX would have had to have been like it is back in what 2004 or something. Cant honestly say Ive ever really seen what OSX looks like though to say whether its a similar product or not, but thinking way back to the old Apple Macintosh, wasnt apple the first to introduce windows as a function? So perhaps MS has been ripping them off since the 80's. Laughing

Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:05 pm

The made for TV docu-drama Pirates of Silicon Valley has some nice info on the whole Apple-Microsoft thing, though their interpretation of Apple's visit to Xerox is off - Xerox invited Apple to a demonstration in return for Apple stock, Apple didn't sneak in and take them. Also seems ol' Bill and his buddies didn't make DOS or Windows, wonderful...

...as for Vista...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDNuq94Zg_8

Posted: Sun Jun 24, 2007 11:03 pm

Vista is not a OS X clone, has it been inspired by OS X? Sure, but its no clone (and OS X has been inspired by various features in Windows)

But, I think OS X is better, or atleast more stable and work better for me.

And for gaming, I am sticking to XP.

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 3:11 am

It's often hard to tell if someone's rippef off another's IP, or just looked for inspiration. I don't think it's very hard to tell in the case of Vista.

Personally I don't much care. I'm of the opinion that building on the sound designs of others, is a good idea in general. Why spend time re-inventing shit if you can refine already working stuff?

And of course, MicroShite is pretty much above and beyond petty concerns like plagarism and IP infringement - just like us P2Pers. I do think they should stop asking money for it though. They aren't paying the OSX devs, after all.

Posted: Mon Jun 25, 2007 11:03 pm

personally, i don't think that vista was ever inspired by OSX. it might just be because i despise applecrap, but from my point of view, microsoft has they're own gig going as opposed to OSX.

first of all, the winNT engine is MUCH different than the UNIX based OSX engines. this makes a clone from a programing standpoint a real reach.

on the looks, i like vista more. granted beryl PWNS vista, but it still looks nice, and it's only a matter of time before a new shell editor makes its' way out. it also seems that OSX has little compatibilty and has a dull, generic look, as opposed to the vibrant and 3D color that can be found in the XP or vista shell, but, the look of UNIX has always been that way, and likely will stay that way. i think that the mainstream look of an OS is the look of OSX/vista.

i think that the american consumer was looking for something that was the "fusion of macintosh and microsoft into a cool looking good working thing".
hah. stupid people galore in america. yay for us. as we all know though, this was no the case.

The ipod OS was a main catalyst i think. they're too many here in america if you ask me. it seems like everyone has one (i don't, i use zen vision W Cool

) i also think that the ipod look and sales are the only thing keeping apple alive as opposed to their stand-alone systems. people are getting ubuntu and then saying "this is a lot like mac".

i think all i'm trying to say is that the mainstream look is only a look. the real "guts" of an OS is in the programming. the look can always change, but not the programming behind the OS. vista just needs time. no one wanted XP until a year or so later with SP1. vista is the like route as well.

looks always change just like a human can change their appearance. but the internal "guts" or human equivalent, "attitude" don't often change. vista is refreshing, but trivial.

not to mention, ideas are hard to copyright (yet you can somehow do so). just because OSX looked nice, doesnt mean windows can't either. either inspires the other, regardless.

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:57 pm

Maybe it is true, but look at this:
1)Aqua-transparency - Aero-transparency
2)Widgets-Gadgets
3)Apple Mail - Windows Mail
4)...
Google for this: Windows Vista - A Lot Like Mac OS X

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 4:26 pm

KsbjA wrote:

Maybe it is true, but look at this:
1)Aqua-transparency - Aero-transparency
2)Widgets-Gadgets
3)Apple Mail - Windows Mail
4)...
Google for this: Windows Vista - A Lot Like Mac OS X

Apple Mail - Google Mail - Yahoo! Mail? Coincidence?! I think not! Laughing

How many programs used and still use transparency?! There's only so much you can do to an operating system's interface guys.

Widgets and Gadgets? How many little programs did people probably have sitting around to do the same thing anyways? Why scrutinize Microsoft for incorporating it into their operating system? Guarantee Apple wasn't the first to think of that one.

Look at half the Linux versions, a lot of them look like Windows! I mean really, who cares? Not something people should complain about.

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 7:46 pm

Yeah, it's a bad clone, I don't like Vista that much, steals RAM like nothing.

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:08 pm

IanMusial wrote:

Yeah, it's a bad clone, I don't like Vista that much, steals RAM like nothing.

in 2 years you'll be laughing at 2GB of RAM.

Posted: Sat Sep 01, 2007 10:56 pm

toulji wrote:

in 2 years you'll be laughing at 2GB of RAM.

When XP came out, a great many of us were bitching about the 128MB RAM requirement.

There's nothing unreasonable about complaining that something as simple as an OS update requires a HW upgrade. After all, it's not like Vista comes bundled with 2x2GB DDRII sticks - which is what most endusers will need.

Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 1:42 pm

BrockH wrote:

KsbjA wrote:

Maybe it is true, but look at this:
1)Aqua-transparency - Aero-transparency
2)Widgets-Gadgets
3)Apple Mail - Windows Mail
4)...
Google for this: Windows Vista - A Lot Like Mac OS X

Apple Mail - Google Mail - Yahoo! Mail? Coincidence?! I think not! Laughing

How many programs used and still use transparency?! There's only so much you can do to an operating system's interface guys.

Widgets and Gadgets? How many little programs did people probably have sitting around to do the same thing anyways? Why scrutinize Microsoft for incorporating it into their operating system? Guarantee Apple wasn't the first to think of that one.

Look at half the Linux versions, a lot of them look like Windows! I mean really, who cares? Not something people should complain about.

Quite reasonable what did u say... seems like stealing other's ideas is part of the competition Laughing

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Posted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 7:09 pm

Disconnected wrote:

toulji wrote:

in 2 years you'll be laughing at 2GB of RAM.

When XP came out, a great many of us were bitching about the 128MB RAM requirement.

There's nothing unreasonable about complaining that something as simple as an OS update requires a HW upgrade. After all, it's not like Vista comes bundled with 2x2GB DDRII sticks - which is what most endusers will need.

i dont think vista it like an OSX clone... i think its more like a prettied up xp... that is all... as for it not being unreasonable that people are complaining about a hardware upgrade for an os update... its not an os update... it is a complete installation of a new os... therefore if it doesnt work on an older system, well thats just the way it is... get new stuff, thats the evolution of soft and hardware... adobe cs3 wouldnt work on the pc i was running cs2 on, i dont think people should be complaining if their computer wont run something because its too old... either stick with what you got or upgrade your hardware... maybe osx is a little like vista and not the other way around? oh well, i use linux now anyways... shiizammm

Posted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 11:28 am

I don't think Vista is a clone. They have some simalarities but definentally not a clone.

Vista is more than a prettied up XP too - because they managed to destroy years of progress on the sound system by basically removing hardware acceleration entirely.

Vista is a pile of wasted potential IMO.