Canadian DMCA and the ACTA

Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 10:18 am

Yah, someone else told me that... but isn't there scares in getting fines with anything? even breathing? Laughing

Anyhow, fines just get tossed out the window for me... LOL.... Wink

I don't worry personally, I am not gettin old and wrinkly before my time... LOL... and that's why nobody usually believes my age and I still get carded in a beer store... LOL... I look at it this way too, if my mother wants a movie, they're just kicking her down in the mud even more and taxpayers would have to pay the fine, cause she's on disability and I'd just give it to her... LOL... than what she's already been kicked in... can't do any more to make her life miserable... it already is and she don't care... LOL...

Now if my movie could be made where I can have a real living... than guess, I wouldn't have to resort to d/l ing... Rolling Eyes

and as for the other ppl that d/l... I'm sure if they felt they had profitable jobs than they too could afford these little luxuries.... anyhow, it's also a whole new learning process ... nothing wrong with learning either... and making new friends...

As well, it also, saves on our environment... does it not? I say those ppl should go with the flow and figure out how to implement whatever it is they're trying to do... instead of fighting a losing battle on their part....

and I know my artwork isn't that good... LOL... that's why it's all being converted to 3-D animations... but it's a lengthy learning process...

ty for the info though....

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:41 pm

I read over it again, and understand more so of what's been tried to be imposed... Not feeling good right now, but thought, I'd catch up once again and try to make more sense of what the law is... that is trying to be imposed...

I am not lawyer to stop this, got a lawbook, but no law degree. if there are lawyers working to save the freedom of this stuff that's going on, than all the power to them in winning to keep our freedoms instead of feeling like going back into being in a communist environment, cause that's what that law sounds like.
Didn't we all make fun of the communist ways as children, in school? LOL... that's crazy. Is anyone trying to save the freedom? Cause that's scary stuff actually. It's bad enough, I feel fear into inviting anyone in my home anymore, for fear that something of whatever I bought for my kid, might disappear, let alone feeling even more confined into Chop Suey - System of a Down.
Is anyone going to school for law that d/l's, etc. cause than that would also show how this site helps and is not destroying, but helping with sharing and etc,. The gov't's should try to think of other avenues then, to go with it, instead of fighting against a growing industry.... something like that anyhow.
These kind of laws usually, also, get tossed in Ontario too. Hopefully, from Canada. Protect our freedom!

It's almost as crazy that the Cdn gov't allows for American business to be as big as it is in this country vs the amount of jobs that are being given in trade with America. How Cdn's sell our gas and buy it back from America..... it's weird... LOL... People even seem to support it by shunning some Cdn businesses like Zellers for some odd reason, and keeping our country a real country and to not become a third world stupid country, not sure if what I say has any impact on anybody, cause I feel shunned way too much in trying to start anything real or I would. What I try to start doesn't usually get taken serious anyhow. I just continue on in learning my 3-d animations, maybe one day someone will take me serious for something. Where's our freedom or the people that are trying to help with protecting and keeping our freedoms?

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:56 pm

I say this law is complete bull**** and Hopefully they don't pass this. We have the damn right share our stuff and do what we want on our systems and not to be monitoring by a goverement looking for a damn profit such as breathing air.

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:06 pm

I've started to browse through my law book once again, even though I feel like crap, although, reading this stuff doesn't totally thrill me... but, something that isn't passed in the Canadian law which gives an ok for something of u/l and d/l for some sort of freedom, is that the copyright act doesn't include any television or video camcorder recordings... so that would cross out p2p sharing as being illegal in that dept, which would at least keep the p2p sharing and torrents available... yahoo, found something to keep p2p sharing alive..
there's an update, not sure if American and Canadian laws are any similar with copyright laws or what other countries lawbooks include, the other people in other countries would have to do their researching on it... if any of this helps btw...

Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 9:43 pm

Something more for information with regards to this topic. BTW, there's lots to read on this so this'll take time to put altogether if this helps any, According to the Canadian Business Law as outlined by S.N. Spetz and G.N. Spetz... "The following act does not constitute an infringement of copyright, any fair dealing with any work for the purposes of private study research, criticism, review, or newspaper summary," and if something is copied for a small number of people, it may be argued that the material is still for private study because it is not being made available to the public and each person recieving a copy and studies it by him or herself (guess an argument would be made of what is meant by public, but that can also be argued in a few arguments)"

Here is also another part of copyright law:

1. Copying must not be so substantial that it will materially reduce demand for the original work;
2. The nature of the work may determine whether there was harm. The owner's expectation as to how the material was to be used is relevant;
3. The amount or extent of the copying is relevant. It would not be fair dealing to copy a work in it's entirety, such as .iso's....

So therefore making a partial copy of a dvd, as long as it's not exploiting the artist's creativity... there's a degree of it being ok... which is probably why also, axxo does his work in .avi form.... and that it also uses less bandwith, as well, as d/l ing for educational purposes is ok too, researching, etc., which is why some gamers get warnings... ok, now, some of this is making more sense. Alright, learning and researching to suit your needs isn't so bad... just can be annoying and frustrating at times.

Will put in more update, and would like to see other's inputs as well, would be nice to think I'm not alone in doing researching and educating, etc. even hearing what people from other countries have to input on what they're finding for their countries. at a later date, sleep is required when not feeling too well!!!

BTW... this is the class I took where me and the teacher had a small debate over an argument I handed in, and he looked at me and said write a book... and I went with what he suggested.... but have taken that further, with listening to what some other people have suggested as well.

Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:00 pm

In response to the Canadian bill:

Many people think there is little if anything they can do to prevent this fascist attempt on the part of the entertainment industry to violate our right to happiness. There are three easy things everyone can do:

1) Boycott Sony . Sony Corporation is one of the major backers of this bill. According to Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SONY , Sony Corporation is a multinational conglomerate corporation and one of the world's largest media conglomerates with revenue of US$88.7 billion (as of 2008). Over the years, Sony has promoted their products to the world population without restriction. Sony sold us MP3 players, computers, CD players, CD burners, monitors and other equipment knowing we could and would use them in a variety of ways.

Sony is now trying to dictate to us what we can and cannot do with the equipment we bought from them. Sony is doing this because Sony now think our use of these products is affecting their business model of maximizing profit.

When the people of the world Boycott Sony on a global scale (globalization) we will send a strong message to this selfish corporation that their fascist actions actually hurt their business model instead of helping it by seriously crashing their sales on a global scale.

Sony has also committed illegal acts such as putting secret monitoring software on unsuspecting user’s computers, and falsifying reviews for Sony movies (see controversies under Sony at Wikipedia).

Even if you don’t live in Canada, Boycotting Sony will still be to your advantage because Sony and their peers will think twice before they promote these risky fascist tactics in another country. When people of the world join together in this noble effort, we will make Sony realize it is actually in Sony’s best corporate interest to promote open use of electronic products and refrain from their restrictive schemes.

2) Spread the word to all your friends, contacts, newspapers, and websites to Boycott Sony .

If you are in a retail business and helping someone decide what to buy, encourage them to Boycott Sony and purchase a non-Sony brand. Sony is a marketing leader as their products are available everywhere but they are not a leader in any single area of technology. Sony computers overheat. Sony computer batteries catch fire. Sony car stereos have a terrible reputation.

So why buy Sony and support a fascist corporation that takes the money you gave them, and uses that money to motivate your government officials to prohibit you from using the equipment you bought from them in the first place?

3) Remember, there are better-than-Sony alternatives to whatever you need, so please:

Boycott Sony Aiwa electronics

Boycott Sony BMG Music Entertainment

Boycott Sony Car audio and GPS

Boycott Sony CD Discman and portable electronics

Boycott Sony Crackle video

Boycott Sony Digital Cameras and Camcorders

Boycott Sony Ericsson

Boycott Sony Konica Minolta

Boycott Sony MGM Company (Metro-Goldwyn-Mayer and United Artists)

Boycott Sony MP3 Players

Boycott Sony Music Entertainment

Boycott Sony NEC Optiarc Inc

Boycott Sony Play Station

Boycott Sony TV and Home Entertainment

Boycott Sony Vaio Computers

Boycott Sony’s Psygnosis Limited

Don’t let Sony control your life!

Posted: Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:40 am

IH wrote:

Another big one to watch referenced in Geist's post is the ... a sneaky trade agreement to turn border patrols into copyright enforcers. Imagine P2P software/downloads banned (authorized distribution or not), and your laptop confiscated because it carries contraband digital bits . All very draconian, and fortunately with the Internet and Wikileaks,

how about a loophole - install the bit torrent client as a "portable app" then it't not technically installed on your laptop, just a cheap thumbdrive that gets confiscated!

so....is anyone working on a portable app torrent client yet? Laughing

Posted: Thu Sep 09, 2010 4:04 pm

Interesting read on this here

Quote:

ACTA is a proposed enforcement treaty between United States, the European Community, Switzerland, Japan, Australia, the Republic of Korea, New Zealand and Mexico, with Canada set to join any day now.

ACTA's official name is "Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement", but the term "counterfeiting" in this context is a distortion of the word and a misrepresentation of the issues. Although the proposed treaty’s title might suggest that the agreement deals only with counterfeit physical goods (such as medicines), what little information has been made available publicly by negotiating governments about the content of the treaty makes it clear that it will have a far broader scope, and in particular, will deal with new tools targeting “Internet distribution and information technology”.

ACTA threatens free software

1. It makes it more difficult to distribute free software: Without file sharing and P2P technologies like BitTorrent, distributing large amounts of free software becomes much harder, and more expensive. BitTorrent is a grassroots protocol that allows everyone to contribute to legally distributing free software.
2. It will make it harder for users of free operating systems to play media: Consumers may no longer be able to buy media without DRM -- and DRMed media cannot be played with free software.
3. It increases the chances of getting your devices taken away: Portable media players that support free formats are less common than devices which support DRM, such as the iPod. Will this make them suspicious to border guards?
4. It creates a culture of surveillance and suspicion, in which the freedom that is required to produce free software is seen as dangerous and threatening rather than creative, innovative, and exciting.

Don't forget to also take action with the EFF!

http://www.fsf.org/campaigns/acta

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 2:15 am

Actually, I suspect the underlying purpose of ACTA is that is offers governments a huge loophole to begin circumventing the democratic process altogether. I really believe ACTA to be the death of democracy.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 4:56 am

The Canadian Government is poised to ignore the input of thousands of consumers who participated in recent public consultations on copyright and proceed with anti-consumer copyright legislation, a Canadian DMCA. Speak out now. Send a letter to your MP and the Prime Minister in less than 2min using this online letter wizard from the Canadian Coalition for Electronic RIghts.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2012 6:51 am

been workin long n steady last little while, found this little nugget to day:
http://boingboing.net/2012/01/10/lockdown.html