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Post Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:27 pm Reply with quote   Back to top    

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 7:27 pm Reply with quote   Back to top    

What can we do to help other than the obvious (buying t-shits, etc).
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Kyranus

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Post Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 8:23 pm Reply with quote   Back to top    

I AGREE!!!! LETS GO GET EM'!!!!
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Post Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:17 pm Reply with quote   Back to top    

just ignore the c&d notices they are just scare tactics just like most emergency scares that evacuate buildings.

wait until they are showing up on your door with a raid.

also why not move to sweden where their copyright laws dont recognize the content as art.

http://thepiratebay.org/legal.php shows how they handle threats
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Post Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2006 9:35 pm Reply with quote   Back to top    

i believe it is just a futile stand for hte mpaa even if they shut us down we will rise up again on other sites they cannot sue everyone on the internet lol and if they do so what i use to spend hundreds on cds but the day the mpaa stuck there noses into the air and wonted money i said no more and i havent bought a cd or taken sample cds from concerts Shocked

ill stand by isohunt and torrentbox i dont think mpaa has any right at all to try to nock you down. Mad
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Post Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:56 am Reply with quote   Back to top    

You know what. I think they are all dumb ass mo-fo's who think that they own the world. Such is not the case, and they need a hard slap in the face to show them information is free, they cannot profit from it.

If this is the case, and they are suing you, they should also be suing GOOGLE.com and every other search engine site that exists. What a load of bull crap they are coming up with.

Oh yeah, if what they say holds up, they should make the sale of VCR's and TAPE RECORDER's illigal because people could possibly record copyrighted songs/movies without paying for them. Isn't that copyright infringement? They should also make mp3 players/dvd players/TIVO illigal too, because if we decided to be stupid assholes like they are being, we could be playing all kinds of pirated data, and HEAVEN ABOVE FORBID, we record that ONE song on the radio that was dedicated to us from a loved one. In fact, wouldn't the RADIO be deemed illegal too? It allows us the means of copyright infringement.... OMFG they are so dumb Wink

Edit: Oh yeah they should also be suing the CD-R/DVD-R companies too. Because they are all ocmtributing. I think this may be the biggest government conspiracy in the history of mankind! Ha ha take that MPAA!
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Post Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:15 am Reply with quote   Back to top    

Wake up, guys. I know it's fun to bitch about the MPAA and the RIAA, but you need to be paying more attention to what's going on before you start whining about what other people "should be doing with their time."

Google IS being sued. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4742382.stm

Large indexing servers ARE being raided and taken down. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/4743052.stm

I don't know the law in and out, but I have had some experience in seeing what appears to be legal when dealing with online piracy. Years ago, before the onset of P2P networks and bittorrent, emulation was one of the most thriving sections of the pirating community. ROMs were available for download all over the place, and all you needed was a search engine to locate them. During that time, a LOT of websites got shut down. It still happens today. An interesting thing about these cases, and how they differ fromt he present ones, is that only the speccific site and owner hosting the files were ever prosecuted or liable to be shutdown. No one shut down tripod because a lot of users had free accounts with pirated material in them. No one tried to shut down search engines or websites with links to other websites that had ROMs available for download.

The key to Isohunts defense lies in this difference. Is referring the same thing as giving? If I refer hundreds of people in my town to a marijuana dealer, am I liable for the sale of marijuana? No. The dealer is prosecuted. And that's all that a torrent does. It tells the user where to go to get their files.

I'm also curious just how far you guys are going to be willing to take this case. In my opinion, the concept of digital copyright altogether is due to be re-evaluated. Can you really copyright strings of binary data? If so, how much, and to what extent? I've contemplated trying to copyright strings of bits communly used in executables to try to rake in some extra cash, but is this even reasonable? Furthermore, can't data be stored and the brain and recited? If I memorize the content of a book, and I speak the entirety of the book, say over the radio, from my own memory, am I violating "copy"right infringement? There are unasked questions and shady lines abound if you look for them.

It is my opinion as it always has been that those who produce digital media need to re-evaluate how they sell their products. Mption pictures - draw all the money from the box office. People will always want to go see movies in theaters. if for no other reason than to get out of the house. Recording artists - Live Performance. People will always want to go see their favorite bands perform live. Television broadcasts - onscreen, low-intrusion ads embedded in the transmission. Much the way that channels often have a logo in the bottom right of the screen,m or the way SpikeTV advertises new shows in the bottom right while other things are going on in the show.

By allowing transmissions and broadcasts to enter into public domain, artists would be broadening the audience for their products immensely, and would potentially be more than able to make up for the revues through the means mentioned above, as they become industry standards.

What it's going to take is a large film compnay releasing a film publicly to the public domain after it goes out of theaters, and a large television company like HBO releasing a television show for free vis bittorrent, but using the embedded advertisement technique mentioned above. BY making all of this legal, and endorsing it all, they are opening themselves up to all kinds of things they never would have realized. Anyway, that's all old hat, but there you have it anyway.
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Post Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:08 pm Reply with quote   Back to top    

people should stop buying movies and other things related to them until the mpaa shuts down

there only rich because everyone buys their stuff

how would they feel to spend over a million dollars to make a movie and make no monie from it and the mpaa is to blame

if you knew what the movie actors really thought about all of the fans who look u to them, you would probally get sick and throw up



the mpaa is only in this for the money and care nothing for the people who make the films

when they come in front of thousands of people and smile, just remember it is not real, there only smiling because the people there are seen as bouncing money bags.

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2006 8:08 pm Reply with quote   Back to top    

MOTHERFUCKING COCKHEADS!!! YOU MPAA WON'T SUCEED!!!
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Post Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 1:30 am Reply with quote   Back to top    

MPAA Threat - Vive La Web Freedom! The MPAA has only itself to blame because of the high cost of its material, which forces people all over the world to share files. After all everyone does not earn American salaries! To buy an original DVD would cost a citizen in an emerging economy about a weeks wages, that too provided he forgoes such "luxuries "like feeding his family and himself!

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Post Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 2:26 am Reply with quote   Back to top    

Good Luck guys, really. You have the entire community behind you!
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Freedom of Information is the most important thing in this world, if we loose it we loose our own freedom, our children’s freedom, and the freedom of the minds of every generation to come.
We cannot live in this archaic system any longer.
Its bigger than a few movies, its a free flow of information we All have to fight for, and you're on the way to the front line now.

I dont have much, but I plan to donate what I can, if it helps even the slightest bit.
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Post Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:23 am Reply with quote   Back to top    

Well, honestly I belive that Courts will find in favor of whatever the public wants. If there is a big enough outcry that what they are doing is wrong.

Get someone that is able to type up some good kinda paper on what is going on and how wrong it is. Then send it to every news paper in the country.

Get the people on your side, and get thoes people to cry out to stop this madness.

We live in a world of information, and that information should remain free.
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Post Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 8:29 am Reply with quote   Back to top    

OoOOo and I have one other comment about this, why are they only going after the indexers and not the people that actually made the files, and the people that made the software that is able to download such files...


Seems kinda like they are just trying to make some money and not really to stop what they call a problem.
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Post Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:21 pm Reply with quote   Back to top    

im sure if a majority of members pitch in a few bucks, these people can be shoved back down to thier deskchairs, where thier lazy asses need to stay, or they can go join the amish and see what no technology advancement is like, maybe they'll quit bitchin about a couple dollars lost of that shitty cd, that only had one good song on it. America... Land Of The Free.
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Post Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:41 pm Reply with quote   Back to top    

How about a legal defence fund that people could donate to? I have never considered donating to isohunt, but with a lawsuit pending, I might be willing to part with a bit of cash.

I sympathize with isohunt, and not only because this is my prime source for torrents. Here's what recently happened to me:

I live on residence at my college (in Ontario), and a couple months into the school year, the IT dept - which handles the entire campus network of which the res is part of - closed off all the ports that are needed for bit torrent to work.

The reason is this. RIAA has a program where they scour bit torrent users for those sharing copyrighted movies and music. They found multiple people at our school sharing copyrighted material. RIAA then put pressure on our school's ISP, which in turn told our school (under fear of a lawsuit) to shut off all the BT-dependant ports or it would lose its service.

The whole thing works because our school has an American ISP. Otherwise RIAA wouldn't have been able to do anything. So despite the fact that the laws RIAA is married to aren't applicable in Canada, they managed to exert their influence across their border thanks to our ISP.

RIAA has no contact information of any kind that is public, so I couldn't call or write them to talk (scream) about it. Thanks to RIAA's fascist policies, I can't use a legal program for legal purposes.

Our school has since taken their business to another ISP. I can't imagine many people have pleasant feelings toward RIAA. Not the businesses they sue, not the individuals they harass, or the service providers who they threaten and consequently lose business for.

That's got to be a wakeup call for our ex-ISP, eh? 3,000 kids on residence and a major institution and bandwidth hog saying f**k you, and taking their business to your competition.
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