Net Neutrality: say no to censorship

Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:31 am

There wa an article in the Times newspaper here in the UK on Tuesday the 12th February, it made front page news that the record companies are going to try and force ISPs in the UK to monitor users and if they are seen to be downloading music or films then the ISPs have to operate a 3 strike system, first they user will get a warning email, next they will have their service suspended for a set period and the third time they will have the service discontinued.
Now I can understand music companies are reportedly losing billions world wide and blaming the internet but to force ISPs to monitor their own customers accounts and watch what they are downloading is a bit "Big Brother" to me.
So there you were thinking that in the privacy of your own home your free to do what you like - think again as it seems we are now going to be forced to do what the big multimedia corporations want us to do.
But im still going to carry on doing what i want for as long as i can and screw those who dont like it.

Posted: Tue Feb 19, 2008 3:29 pm

haha, its funny because since tpb was blocket from tele 2 its has godt 12 % more visitors from denmark. Very Happy

but people will always find af ways into tpb.

Posted: Sat Feb 23, 2008 1:56 pm

Agape wrote:

Guess what the case is in places like the US, Canada, and Europe? Entry prohibitive to impossible, due mostly to regulation of the industry.

There is also another problem. ISPs tend to be natural monopolies, like most utilities. What I mean they have to invest a lot to start up; wiring, equipment, real estate, etc. but after that the cost of operating flattens out and by signing up more and more customers they make more money without the need to invest anymore. The result is that they can charge much less than a let say new company that is starting up and they still make more money.
Regulation can be good or a bad thing. We (USA) had heavy regulated industries for a long time air travel, trucking, banking, telecommunications, energy. Most of them are deregulated right now maybe except energy. Most deregulations were a success but sometimes it was a failure (Savings and Loans 130bil loses in late 80s early 90s).
So is good when is done smart (like telecommunications let's say).
Got to go interesting subject though, will be back for sure.

Posted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 6:36 pm

You're right about that. Once it starts, we're all bound for internet dictatorship by our countries. Isn't china bad enough?

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 10:48 am

The government according to sources like sharecast.com is under pressure from media organisations who want ISP's to be given further powers of regulation and control over internet piracy.

Current legislation prohibits such an act of censorship preventing ISP's from viewing consumer content as it is currently considered a violation of consumer privacy.

Also, the good news for internet pirates is there is no tangible means of enforcing the proposed means of regulation in the form of the 'three strike rule.'

America and France are among some of the countries who have adopted this type of regulation, yet evidently downloadable content from these countries can still be accessed which suggest the incompetence of such a regulatory means.

Further reading: reading:http://www.sharecast.com/cgibin/sharecast/story.cgi?story_id=1914348

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 10:31 am

Ach, I dinnae ken whits this is aw aboot anyhoo. Here if I sat on ma erse in the pub and told everyone everything, would this shooshted?..

Censorshite that's whit it is eh!

Technically its possible, but ethically, come on!

This the new world order balls kicking into another gear then?

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:05 am

nutellajunkie wrote:

Censorshite that's whit it is eh!

I think I agree with you, but I got no idea what you just said.

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:16 pm

I am not surprised that they are trying to destroy NN; after all, the corporations hate what they can't get a cut in on.

Posted: Fri Mar 14, 2008 2:19 am

when these "caps" are in affect that means that i got to get a new screen saver?

for those who dont know what im talking about electric sheep screensaver uses bit torrent protocols and if they' re putting caps on bit torrent traffic then im not going to be able to get new sheep. is that going to be the case? I support bit torrent all the way.

really it cant be stopped. if the music and movie labels were smart about it then they would find a way to distribute music and movies via bittorrent. but then again it would cut out the 'middle man'. but it would also save a trip to the store. better for the environment. Very Happy

there are some advantages and disadvantages to it. either way i still support bit torrent to the fullest

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 1:01 pm

Does anyone know what Shaw Cable's (Canada) stance on all this is? Shaw has cut me off a few times for what they call Bandwidth abuse. Apparently I'm only allowed a certain amount of gigs up and down, per-month.

They've never said anything about what I'm downloading or from where, they just shut my service off.

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 5:33 pm

Personally, i think this whole "big brother" thing has gone way too far, being seen on CCTV 300 times a day is one thing, but in you own home!

Anyhow, even if ISPs do take things further than capping bandwidth, well find a way round it. Theres way more hackers 'n' "cyber pirates" in the world than ISPs and MPs put together, so we'll always be one step ahead.

Someone mentioned I2P, which I had a look at, and it seems to have allot of potential, but its still early days (pre-alpha), but being p2p (or at least very similar), it wont be any good until a sufficient amount of people start using it. But it's a potential workaround if ISPs do start all this censorship bollocks

Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008 7:18 pm

Check this out.

http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/08/03/15/2243235.shtml

No more file sharing in Japan Crying or Very sad

This is definately a step in the wrong direction.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 2:06 am

Looks like the land down under has gone the way of filtering. Just received an email from BayTSP Inc acting on behalf of Paramount Pictures requesting my ISP to cut my access. At this stage i've been warned by my ISP to cease all activity or they'll cut me off. Evil or Very Mad

Might have to take my business elsewhere!

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:08 am

ISPs would become data collection agencies for the government adn this would give them way too much power.

Posted: Mon Mar 17, 2008 6:17 pm

stevens666 wrote:

ISPs would become data collection agencies for the government adn this would give them way too much power.

They already have in the form of black boxes... I'm suprized you didn't already know that.