Steroids: Pros vs. Cons

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 5:36 pm

Alright. So my best friend has been telling me that he wants to take steroids. I keep telling him that there are me disadvantages than advantages. He does not seem to believe me. He said that he wants me to (and I quote) "Put it up for discussion on that damn site your always on". So that is exactly what I am doing. I want to know what you all think. Do you think it's a good idea? Or a bad idea?

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 5:50 pm

The health problems people joke about, like shrunken testicles, are not the worst thing that could happen. I had a friend, HAD being the keyword who ended up getting his mothers house raided by customs. AND beat his neighbor unconscious.... he now resides in a jail outside of Perth, and regrets everything now he is off the roids.....

oh yeah... his neighbor, was female. Shocked

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 5:54 pm

sidarial wrote:

The health problems people joke about, like shrunken testicles, are not the worst thing that could happen. I had a friend, HAD being the keyword who ended up getting his mothers house raided by customs. AND beat his neighbor unconscious.... he now resides in a jail outside of Perth, and regrets everything now he is off the roids.....

oh yeah... his neighbor, was female. Shocked

Man. Hope nobody inside finds out what he did.. ( Being a correctional officer, i know first hand what other inmates do to people who commit crimes against women.)

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 6:08 pm

Yep they can give some nasty side effects and make people violent ..
To see some side effects you just nee to look on youtube ..I think you should just be on them if you really need to be if you have some sort of illness and the doctor put you on them or after a operation even then most doctors will not keep you on them for long..

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 6:13 pm

They is bullshit, I give roid users shit when i see them, all show and no go. Body builders are not very strong, its just roid induced muscles that looks big.

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 7:06 pm

no thanks

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ACNE:

Rampant acne is one of the more obvious indicators of steroid use. When taking anabolic steroids, an adult will commonly be confronted with this same problem. This is because the sebaceous glands, which secrete oils in the skin, are stimulated by androgens. Increasing the level of such hormones in the skin may therefore enhance the output of oils, often causing acne to develop on the back, shoulders and face. The use of strongly androgenic steroids in particular can be very severe, in some instances causing blemishes on the skin or spots. By washing your face and always showering after exercises it will reduce this effect. If you have very severe acne see your dermatologist, but in most instances even a dermatologists can't do anything until your cycle is over.
AGGRESSION:

Aggressive behavior can be one of the scarier sides of steroid use. Men are typically more aggressive than women because of the testosterone difference, and especially with the use of steroids (especially androgens) can increase a person’s aggressive tendencies. Yet some bodybuilders and power-lifters like this effect for the use of lifting heavier and more explosive. A steroid user who cannot manage to control themselves should seriously rethink there process of cycling, because thinking doing more is better might be right or wrong know your body first.
ANAPHYLACTIC SHOCK:

Anaphylactic shock is an allergic reaction to the presence of a foreign protein in the body. It most commonly occurs when an individual has an allergy to things like a specific medication (such as penicillin), insect bites, chemicals, foods, food additives/preservatives. With this sometimes-fatal disorder the smooth muscles are stimulated to contract, which may restrict a person’s breathing. This reaction is not really seen with hormonal products like anabolic steroids, but with counterfeits and low production values of these independent underground labs it may.
BIRTH DEFECTS:

Anabolic steroids can have a profoundly impact on the development of a fetus. Adrenal Genital Syndrome in particular is a very disturbing occurrence, in which a female fetus can develop male reproductive organs. Woman should not use anabolic steroids or other medications that may be harmful to the fetus, and always check with your doctor first.
BLOOD CLOTTING:

The use of anabolic steroids is shown to increase prothrombin time, or the duration it will take for a blood clot to form. This basically means that while an individual is taking steroids, he/she may notice that it takes slightly longer than usual for a small cut or nosebleed to stop seeping blood. Realistically the changes in clotting time are not extremely dramatic, so athletes are usually only concerned with this side effect if planning for a surgery.
CANCER:

Although it is a popular belief that steroids can give you cancer, this is actually a very rare phenomenon. Since anabolic steroids are synthetic version of a natural hormone that your body can metabolize quite easily, they usually place a very low level of stress on the organs. In fact, many steroidal compounds are safe to administer to individuals with a diagnosed liver condition, with little adverse effect. The only real exception is C17 alpha alkylated compounds, like Anadrol 50 can lead to stressed liver, even liver damage and very rare cases lead to liver cancer.
CARDIOVASCULAR DISEASE:

As mentioned earlier, the use of anabolic steroids may have an impact on the level of LDL (low density lipoprotein), HDL (high density lipoprotein) and total cholesterol values. As you probably know, HDL is considered the “good” cholesterol, because it can act to remove the cholesterol deposits from the arteries. LDL has the opposite effect, aiding in the buildup of cholesterol on the artery walls. The general pattern seen with steroid use is a lowering of HDL concentrations, while total and number of LDL increases.
DEPRESSION:

Steroid use will obviously have an impact on hormone levels in the body, which in turn may result in a change in one’s general disposition or mood. Depression usually occurs at times when an individual’s androgen/estrogen levels are significantly off balance. This is most common with male bodybuilders, at times when anabolic steroids are discontinued. During this period estrogen levels may be markedly elevated, which is often coupled with a deeply suppressed endogenous testosterone level.
GYNECOMASTIA:

Gynecomastia is medical term for the development of female breast tissue in the male body. This occurs when the male is presented with unusually high level of estrogen, particularly with the use of strong aromatizing androgens such as testosterone and Dianabol. The excess estrogen can act upon receptors in the breast and stimulate the growth of mammary tissues. If left unchecked this can lead to an actual obvious and unsightly tissue growth under the nipple area. In many cases taking on a very feminine appearance.
HAIR LOSS:

The use of highly androgenic steroids can negatively impact the growth of scalp hair. In fact the most common form of male pattern hair loss is directly linked to the level of androgens in such tissues, most specifically the stronger DHT metabolite of testosterone. The technical term for this type of hair loss is androgenetic alopecia, which refers to the interplay of both the male androgenic hormones and a genetic predisposition in bringing about this condition. Those who suffer from this disorder are shown to posses finer hair follicles and higher levels of DHT in comparison to a normal, hairy scalp.
HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE/ HYPERTENSION:

Athletes using anabolic steroids will commonly notice a rise in blood pressure during treatment. High blood pressure is most often associated with the use of steroids that have a high tendency for estrogen conversion, such as testosterone and Dianabol. As estrogen builds in the body, the level of water and salt retention will typically elevate (which will increase blood pressure). This may be further amplified by the added stress of intense weight training and rapid weight gain.
IMMUNE SYSTEM:

The use of anabolic/androgenic steroids has been shown to produce changes in the body that may impact an individual’s immune system. These changes however can be both good and bad for the user. During steroid treatment for instance, many athletes find they are less susceptible to viral illnesses.
KIDNEY ISSUES:

Since your kidneys are involved in the filtration and removal of byproducts from the body, the administration of steroidal compounds (which are largely excreted in the urine) may cause them some level of strain. Actual kidney damage is most likely to occur when the steroid user is suffering from severe high blood pressure, as this state can place an undue amount of stress on these organs. There is actually some evidence to suggest that steroid use can be linked to the onset of Wilm’s Tumor in adults, which is a rapidly growing kidney tumor normally seen in children and infants. Such cases are so rare however, that no conclusive link has been established.
LIVER ISSUES:

Liver stress/damage is not a side effect of steroid use in general, but is specifically associated with the use of C17 alpha alkylated compounds. In surviving a first pass by the liver, these compounds place some level of stress on the organ. In some instances this has led to severe damage, even fatal liver cancer. The disease peliosis hepatitis is one worry, which is an often life threatening condition where the liver develops blood filled cysts. Liver cancer has also been noted in certain cases. While these very serious complications have occurred on certain occasions where liver-toxic compounds were prescribed for extended periods, it is important to stress however that this is not very common with steroid using athletes.
PROSTATE ENLARGEMENT:

Prostate cancer is currently one of the most common forms of cancer in males. Benign prostate enlargement can precede this cancer, and is clearly an important medical concern for men who are aging. Prostate complications are believed to be primarily dependent on androgenic hormones, particularly the strong testosterone metabolite DHT in normal situations, much in the same way estrogen is linked to breast cancer in woman.
TESTICULAR ATROPHY:

The human body always prefers to remain in a very balanced hormonal state, a tendency, a tendency known as homeostasis. When the administration of androgens from an outside source causes a surplus of hormone, it will cause the body to stop manufacturing its own testosterone. Specifically this happens via a feedback mechanism, where the hypothalamus detects a high level of sex steroids and shuts off the release of GnRH (Gonadotropin Releasing Hormone, formerly referred to as luteinizing hormone releasing hormone).
WATER and SALT RETENTION:

Many anabolic steroids can increase the amount of water and sodium stored in body tissues. In some instances steroid induced water retention can bring about a very bloated appearance to the body in which will also reduce the visibility of muscle features. Although water retention may not be the most unwelcome side effect during a bulking cycle, it can lead to dangerous problems such as high blood pressure and kidney damage. The body is clearly under more strain when dealing with unusually high level of water, so athletes should not simply ignore this.

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 9:27 pm

Schlomo can you message me where you got this from so i can print it off for him. Might knock some sense into him lol

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 9:33 pm

jdm1234 wrote:

Schlomo can you message me where you got this from so i can print it off for him. Might knock some sense into him lol

wouldn't the word impotence work?

think everyone should know

http://www.anabolic-bible.org/ShowPage.aspx?callpage=side_effects

more here

http://www.google.ca/search?q=steroid+side+effects&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 9:53 pm

I just printed off both articles, emailed the links, and text messaged the link to him as well. As it is midnight where I am, I hope i wake his dumba** up. Serves him right to.. Thanks for the help.

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 2:59 pm

professional wrestlers are the biggest example of 'roid rage. a few of the great wrestlers who have used this drug had horrible endings. one of whom is Chris Benoit . God forbid anything like that would ever happen again. Crying or Very sad

Posted: Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:40 pm

Plain and simple. No Don't take steriods. live a better life. you can exercise without using those fake powder, energy drinks, and crap. Build muscle naturally. But, I know everyone here is not going to be there taking your hand, so you make your own decision.

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 9:07 am

First of all you guys are all operating on OLD information. Most doctors now agree that LOW testosterone and or inconsistent testosterone levels are responsible for "Roid rage". Also, people with little control of their emotions are the ones that tend to have this problem. It is their lack of self confidence and or predisposed personality disorder combined with their new muscles that tends to cause them to go nutty. Their are thousands and thousands of steroid users that never experience roid rage. You never hear about them, and why would you?

Second, how old is your friend? if he is under 20, assuming the person is a male, he probably will not benefit from testosterone because his natural levels are probably already very high. Steriods like Oxandrolone (anavar), and stonolozal (winstrol) do not interfere with the bodies natural testosterone production and can help increase strength as well as boost the bodies ability to burn and utilize stored fat as energy. Their side effects include being the worlds fastest man and breaking the single season home run record.

Your testicles shrink when they are not utilized to produce testosterone but will return to size when the cycle (period of use) is over and a post cycle drug like clomid (chlomephine) is used to restore the bodies natural testosterone levels. Your DICK does not shrink!!! but you will wake up with rock hard erections every morning and your sexual appetite will be voracious!! Taking steroids will not make you sterile unless you use them for very long periods of time and at extremely ridiculous levels.

There are shit tons of bullshit information out there including how smoking marijuana will cause teenage girls to become prostitutes have interracial babies and drop out of high school if they smoke one joint. The ADA does not want certian steroids on the market in America because they work too well and are not as profitable as other drugs currently on the market. Deca Durabolin (Nandrolone Decanoate) adds muscle tissue by increasing the bodies ability to process protien. It also has a wonderful side affect of cuasing the user to retain water, the good part is that the retained water penetrates connective tissue such as ligaments and tendons and helps to "renew" cartilage that has been crushed or that may have decreased fluid retention due to the individuals genetics or other health conditions. It does not affect the users psyche but it does suppress the users natural hormone production and a post cycle drug must be used to restore natural production.

Before you go preaching propaganda about side affects and roid rage do your homework. Read the warning labels on your asthma medicine, check the side affects on your anti-depressant. You will find that they are equally as scary as all of the bullshit you read about steroids.

I am not saying that your friend should use them. I am however saying that he should do his homework. Do not listen to the local knucklehead at the gym. Remember everything in moderation. If you are not following the directions you are f**kin up. If you eat shit food while on roids you will get acne. Your body will be running a a very hightened state.

If you ask the opinions of stupid people that know nothing on the subject you will get stupid no nothing opinions in return.

Arnold Schwarzennegr, started taking roids when he was in his teens became Mr. Universe , an actor, the Governor of California, his many children and is still a very healthy man in his 60's. Lou Ferrigno played the incredible hulk on TV and is now a Sheriff.

I think I am done now.......GOOD LUCK!!!!!

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 11:34 am

ranxirox wrote:

Arnold Schwarzennegr, started taking roids when he was in his teens became Mr. Universe , an actor, the Governor of California, his many children and is still a very healthy man in his 60's.!

I'm not diminishing your argument here because you raise some good points but just so it's clear Schwarzenegger under went massive heart surgery about 10 years ago which some doctors put down to steroid abuse. That said they have no physical evidence of that! But the point is he's probably not the healthiest man in the world.

I know people who have used them and once they stopped they got really fat lol Very Happy

but as a maintenance drug, if used in moderation that is, I've never heard of any serious side effects although I'm no medical expert and I smoke way too much marijuana that I don't even know what I'm on about half the time so it would be idiotic to quote me, also i've never lifted a weight in my life so I don't really know anything Very Happy

Edit: Also, I'm so high that I didn't even realise that the original post was over a year ago ROFL Shocked

I do this way too often...

Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2012 6:08 pm

Thank you Dr ranxirox Rolling Eyes

Posted: Sun Aug 26, 2012 5:22 am

i have personnaly never used them but have friensa who have, one became so aggressive towards all our feinds that we just ended up staying away from and luckilt the loss of his friends pulled him around.

I had another friend who whilst using them got so angry he started throwing milk bottles up in the air and then started punching them out of the air, now thw back of his hands are covered in the most hideous scars that cannot really be hidden,thankfully he too came round and knocked the roids on the head. A few friends never did stop and we lost touch with them as their life became about the gym 5/6 gays a week and nowt else.

MY experiance about steroids is all poor they did some real damage to some of my friends and the lucky ones who stopped even say that while they were using they did'nt really feel themselves everything was on a knife edge just waiting for any excuse to explode.

SO I would say they are not worth it,stick to hard work and patience and your body will became your temple, litteraly