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| I think its a wait n see mate. |
Agreed.
Right now Ridley Scotts' name is about the only thing this has going for it. Sci-Fi movies are ridiculously easy to mess up. |
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I read that Guy Pearce is the lead male.
The bulldozer thing working on the planet in the trailer looks great.
I am so stoked about a new Alien film. I hope that this is GOLD and a ***** film, and that it gets a 'if you only see one film this year make it this....' reviews from everywhere.
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Ridley Scott really knows how to please an audience, but don't get your hopes up too high. Alien3 and Resurrection went from bad to worse, there's no telling what a prequel might do. |
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i cant wait for this!!!!!
Does anybody have or know where i can get a working copy of this. all i can find is fakes........ |
I've been keeping an eye out for at least a screener for this... no joy
I think it's not due to hit the theaters until June 2012 sometime. (And Battleship sometime in May) Should be two rather good flicks ! |
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| Fred-Bear wrote: |
| afn09 wrote: |
i cant wait for this!!!!!
Does anybody have or know where i can get a working copy of this. all i can find is fakes........ |
I've been keeping an eye out for at least a screener for this... no joy
I think it's not due to hit the theaters until June 2012 sometime. (And Battleship sometime in May) Should be two rather good flicks ! |
i was only messing with that post. a little dig to the "i want it now" people. ill be going to the cinema for this one, not often i sat that |
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How is this related to Ridley Scott's 'Alien' and the rest of the franchise?
In short, the movie is set in the same fictional universe of Ridley Scott's Alien and has shared events with it, but it's not very related to the rest of the original franchise, and it's definitively not related to Aliens vs Predator. There had been talks of a fifth Alien movie for years, with alternating contributions from James Cameron and Ridley Scott. In fact, Scott had committed to an Alien sequel or prequel about ten years ago but aborted the project when the studio opted to make the AvP movies first, and both Cameron and Scott, separately, were not supporters of the Alien/Predator crossover franchise. After the disappointing box office from Aliens vs Predator: Requiem, the studio shelved the AvP franchise again to go back to the original plan. The prequel film was supposed to cover the origins of the Weyland-Yutani Company.
When the project was initially greenlit, it was seen as two separate movies to be chronologically before the first Alien movie, written by Jon Spaihts, being directed by Carl Erik Rinsc, and Scott staying only as producer. However, Fox wanted Scott in the director's chair so bad that he eventually accepted under the condition that the script was heavily retooled to reflect the concepts that he wanted to explore. Damon Lindelof was the pen to make it happen, and the result has been described in certain moments as a both a prequel and an original story. For instance, in an interview, Michael Fassbender confirmed that this is actually an Alien movie, taking place in the Alien universe. In July 2011, however, Scott stated in another interview that "by the end of the third act you start to realize there's a DNA of the very first Alien, but none of the subsequent [films]".
In short, the story takes place within the same universe albeit not directly connected to the events of the original. There has been some misdirection on part of the film makers to help heighten interest in the film by showing glimpses and links in common with Alien, including imagery inspired by, if not designed and built by, H.R. Giger (Source). The third trailer for Prometheus shows footage of alien spacecraft shaped like the Derelict Ship and the premise to explain the "Space Jockey" inside such ship, confirming that the film does, indeed, take place in the same fictional universe as the previous Alien films, but will focus far more on the Space Jockey race (called "gods and engineers" by Ridley Scott since the early interviews) other than on the so-called "alien crature" or "xenomorph". |
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I cannot wait for this. The trailer looks like a good film in itself - even before u know it's an Alien prequel. I think it looks like they haven't messed it up (fingers Xed) |
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***WARNING MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS***
Ok so i went to see it last night. What a bloody amazing film!! It is both a stand-alone film, and a prequel rolled into one. I would recommend re-watching Alien (1979) either just before or just after to see for yourselves. Aliens is set in the year 2179, with Alien set 57 years prior to that, in 2122. Prometheus is set in 2093 approx 30 years before that. So the timeline stacks up nicely.
The start of the film suggests that Darwins theory is slightly flawed, and that the "space jockey" race (called engineers in the plot of prometheus) were respomsible for creating the human race. The middle of the film is its own stand-alone story, which does get slightly muddled and complicated in parts imo, and also has a couple of cheesy bits. It does hint towards the Alien films on occasion. On the whole though, great story and special effects etc. The end of the film ***rest of review suspended cos id hate to read this bit before actually watching the film lol, but rest assured, the ending is very good***
In summary, been looking forward to this for ages, and i wasnt disappointed one bit. |
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Lol at your Avatar ... Anyway, cheers for the little review... Definately going to watch this at the cinema, been looking forward to this film for aaaaaaages
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***WARNING MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS***
Ok so i went to see it last night. What a bloody amazing film!! It is both a stand-alone film, and a prequel rolled into one. I would recommend re-watching Alien (1979) either just before or just after to see for yourselves. Aliens is set in the year 2179, with Alien set 57 years prior to that, in 2122. Prometheus is set in 2093 approx 30 years before that. So the timeline stacks up nicely.
The start of the film suggests that Darwins theory is slightly flawed, and that the "space jockey" race (called engineers in the plot of prometheus) were respomsible for creating the human race. The middle of the film is its own stand-alone story, which does get slightly muddled and complicated in parts imo, and also has a couple of cheesy bits. It does hint towards the Alien films on occasion. On the whole though, great story and special effects etc. The end of the film ***rest of review suspended cos id hate to read this bit before actually watching the film lol, but rest assured, the ending is very good***
In summary, been looking forward to this for ages, and i wasnt disappointed one bit. |
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| Ridley Scott has not let us down in the past, i doubt he will on this. a question tho has arisen: Why is it called Prometheus? |
Its the name of the spaceship!  |
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***WARNING MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS***
Ok so i went to see it last night. What a bloody amazing film!! It is both a stand-alone film, and a prequel rolled into one. I would recommend re-watching Alien (1979) either just before or just after to see for yourselves. Aliens is set in the year 2179, with Alien set 57 years prior to that, in 2122. Prometheus is set in 2093 approx 30 years before that. So the timeline stacks up nicely.
The start of the film suggests that Darwins theory is slightly flawed, and that the "space jockey" race (called engineers in the plot of prometheus) were respomsible for creating the human race. The middle of the film is its own stand-alone story, which does get slightly muddled and complicated in parts imo, and also has a couple of cheesy bits. It does hint towards the Alien films on occasion. On the whole though, great story and special effects etc. The end of the film ***rest of review suspended cos id hate to read this bit before actually watching the film lol, but rest assured, the ending is very good***
In summary, been looking forward to this for ages, and i wasnt disappointed one bit. |
awesome. good to hear. cheers mate and yeh i love the avatar too |
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Prometheus
Spoiler Warning!
Right from the offset I must point out that I do not understand why people are saying this film isn't really a prequel to the classic 'Alien', let me put the record straight here and tell you all that this film is very much a prequel to 'Alien' in every sense. I have read numerous accounts of how Alien fans should go in with their expectations lowered as they will not see the film they want, epically incorrect.
The story is everything you could want for the prequel and has numerous hints and homages to the first three Alien films and even 'AvP'.
As with the original classic the story unfolds with some typically beautiful interior spacecraft work from Scott as the crew awaken from their deep sleep. Scott clearly tries to recreate the same opening from 'Alien' with this new crew and he does make it look good but it still can't compare to the original. I realise its a different kind of ship to the
Nostromo
but I just preferred the gritty, dirty, grimy sweat inducing environment of the original, you could almost taste it.
The plot in general is very similar to how things develop in 'AvP' but that may be a simple coincidence. The
Prometheus
lands on 'LV-223' with the same kind of camera/model shots exactly as the
Nostromo
did on 'LV-426', the crew then disembark and explore the ancient alien tomb in virtually the same way as the Marines from the 'Sulaco' (minus the hardass act).
We see corridors reminiscent of the hive corridors in the bowels of the nuclear-powered atmosphere processing station in 'Aliens', of course we see the main chamber with the big head (we all know what that looks like) and then of course within about 30min of the film starting we see holograms of the 'space jockeys' or as they are known now...the 'engineers'.
As things get heated up the crew must evac the tomb and you hear the cry 'David we are leaving!' which as you all should know is the line 'Hicks' uses in 'Aliens'...'Drake we are leaving!'. Later on the film we see our heroine having to remove an unusual foetus from inside herself which harks back to 'Alien 3' story lines, acid in the face moments, there is evidence of an overgrown facehugger type creature towards the end and then you have all the 'engineer' plot hints that give clues to 'Alien', its very satisfying.
Visually the film is a fudging masterpiece as you would expect from Scott. Everything looks gorgeous and so real it could actually work, the ships (the
Prometheus
looks beautiful with her roaring blue/white glowing engines) , the equipment, the outfits and the sets are all stunning, epic in stature and perfect in reality.
The effects are also excellent and handled with ease. At first I was disappointed in the reveal that the engineers were in fact ancient humans (exact DNA match), that's a hard pill to swallow, but the design of the face is simple yet so damn good. They actually look very intimidating with their big black eyes and strong body frames, the suits they wear still look really quite eerie but solid and the famous 'space jockey' features are well Incorporated after all these years, it works tremendously well.
Cast wise I must confess to being a little disappointed after all the hype. Don't get me wrong the film is not ruined by lack of effort but Fassbender really is the only decent performance on show here. His clear, calm, smooth demeanor is as suspicious as it is comforting, quite unnerving at times but his appearance and manner did bring thoughts of Kubrick's '2001' (the opening sequence of him and the empty ship whilst he has obviously been monitoring the crew in a 'Hal' like fashion).
Other casting I didn't really take a shine to. It was always going to be hard to use a female lead (again) as the hero and not have her compared to 'Ripley'. I think this was a mistake by Scott trying to recapture previous glory when it wasn't required, I also found her annoying, dunno why. Theron was miscast for me as she just doesn't fit this type of film in my eyes, Elba I think is an actor of the moment and cast for his popularity in previous films hoping to transfer it to this one (common mistake) and Logan Marshall-Green I just didn't like a tall, something about his looks. Surprise hit for me was Sean Harris as 'Fifield', his character may have been total cliche, predictable and unoriginal but his rebellious appearance and nervous disposition is always a smile raiser ('Hudson').
Of course there are issues with the film that many have already mentioned, its not perfect. I was able to follow the plot for most of the film no problem but there are still unanswered questions revolving around the black goo, 'David's' intentions using the black goo, where the eel things actually come from in the first place and mainly how does an 'engineer' ship crash on 'LV-426' in 'Alien', still don't know!
If you ask me it does seem that those eel creatures lived on that particular planet before the 'engineers' got there and they just happened to cause grief, but how the black goo caused Rapace's character to get pregnant with an eel alien I don't know.
The other thing that bugged me was the fact the technology in this prequel seemed infinitely better than the original, shouldn't it be the other way around? There was also the fact that half the crew were excess, simply along for the ride to be killed off, a bit weak that Mr Scott.
So with some minor-ish questions aside I can confidentally say this film is an achievement for Scott and his crews. Yes the film stands as a good sci-fi film on its own but it also should please Alien fans as there is plenty to get your teeth into, just don't expect any actual recognisable xenomorphs this time round. |
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still aint seen it(gf wanted to see the avengers)still as an alien fan waiting to have my mind blown |
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