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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-16642369
the most interesting point from the entire report is the last quote.
Gartner's media distribution expert Mike McGuire.
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| "It begs the question that if you can find and arrest people who are suspected to be involved in piracy using existing laws, then why introduce further regulations which are US-only and potentially damaging." |
Whilst this is nothing new it does lead to questions as why are SOPA & PIPA being so rushed.
I would assume it is purely for the US to consolidate behind law in its efforts to sieze control of the www. |
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Was just reading that on TorrentFreak
Anonymous Retaliates For Megaupload Shutdown – DoJ, UMG, RIAA and MPAA go Down
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It only took a few minutes for “Anoymous” to spring into action and retaliate for the shutdown of MegaUpload.
Under the #OpPayBack flag several sites are taken offline
It started with justice.gov, but son after the sites of Universal Music Group, the RIAA and MPAA were in trouble as well.
Both TangoDown and MegaUpload are trending on twitter at the time of writing. |
http://torrentfreak.com/anonymous-retaliates-for-megaupload-shutdown-120120/ |
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cool news tazzz,
I was just reading the BBC links and it would appear that war on the US regarding the police state attitude to the nets has begun in earnest.
One idiot had the balls to say the following
Richard Mollet, chairman of the Publishers Association
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If you walked around the streets of America or Britain with no creative content available to you, because rights holders had decided to shut up shop, you would be deprived of the BBC, cinemas, radio, bookstores and so on.
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Well his argument in my mind falls short as there are countless artists who would love the chance to fill the void. Countless great musicians actors and actresses that due to the selection and possible return on investment are totally ignored by the media and copy right holders. Should the CR holders withhold their goods then the world might well see a true revolution is creativity and user response via the nets towards such an explosion of new blood new sounds new ideas new voices and opinions.
Let them withhold their content I say.....and then the dam to true freedom and creativity is truly open and flowing.
he even had the nerve to say this
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| "What's at stake when rogue internet sites are available to people and revenues are deprived is a great deal more than the excellent but nevertheless more limited Wikipedia." |
Now as far as i see it the wikipedia on its own does more to promote the correct information about artists and media than the copyright holders themselves. just imagine for one moment if they were to shut up shop and the wiki and others were then the source of information about content artist and their works aspirations and collaborations....then the world of entetainment as dictated by Hollywood is over for good. There is just too much talent out there in the world and on the webs that is stifled by the steamroller tactics of the media giants.
Jimmy Wales made a very good point.
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Sadly this route is not followed as those that share are not taking money.
That many might view a movie or listen to an album often visit a concert or get hooked and buy the real deal as they want it and like. This fact is just brushed aside. |
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Be careful this one is gonna be long.
I have just too much to say and quoting Dodd is tedious so i shall quote the entire article from the Hollywood Reporter and insert my comments in Bold.
MPAA Chairman Chris Dodd came out swinging Tuesday in the fight over pending Internet anti-piracy legislation calling online web sites and tech companies supporting the “Blackout Day” protest scheduled for Wednesday “irresponsible” and calling their protest action “a disservice to people who rely on them for information” or use their services.
Oh really. how can it be a disservice when millions have rallied to the call to oppose bills as SOPA & PIPA after links to the real information and harm that these Bills can do to the Free and Open WWW. Also a total and blatant dismissal of the Millions of web users that support these actions.
Just for Wiki 18,000 volunteer workers and associates agreed a blackout was justified in the face of such steam roller tactics as are being used by the Copyrights holders and their lawyers and band of merry robbers.
“It is also an abuse of power given the freedoms these companies enjoy in the marketplace today,” said Dodd in a statement. “It’s a dangerous and troubling development when the platforms that serve as gateways to information intentionally skew the facts to incite their users in order to further their corporate interests.”
Where does this guy get his information? Many of the sites using their freedom and voice are supported by the worlds users of the web and are run and supported by voluntary action and donation. It is their God given right to oppose the voices of oppression and restriction together with retaliation to proposed bills for law that would give control of what belongs to the people of the world to a hand picked elite that see only profit and gain as an incentive..
Among those who have said their sites will go dark on Wednesday are the English-language version of Wikipedia, Reddit (which will do dark for 12 hours) and the Cheezburger Network, which provides comedy and news blogs. By some accounts thousands of other sites will go dark as well.
"A so-called “blackout” is yet another gimmick, albeit a dangerous one, designed to punish elected and administration officials who are working diligently to protect American jobs from foreign criminals,” continued Dodd.
It gets better and better. So the worlds voices of reason decided to punish elected officials. first I ever heard of it. many elected officials listen to a one sided argument. YOURS. I do not regard the majority of elected officials to be stupid but if and when they only hear one side of any argument then it stands to reason that they would in all probability agree. The danger as you call it is the simple fact that your voice is not the only voice these elected officials are hearing. Suddenly they are being called from different areas. Technology firms saying "hey ,Wait up" along with businesses that are also employing millions of people are suddenly giving their side of the story.
“It is our hope that the White House and the Congress will call on those who intend to stage this “blackout” to stop the hyperbole and PR stunts and engage in meaningful efforts to combat piracy.”
WOW! let get to it. Wiki said themselves....go for the money. Am I to believe that the entire joint forces of the FBI Homeland security agencies the MI6 the French Connection and other law agencies around the world cannot find the money? Are you trying to tell me that the only way to stop piracy is to hand over the internet to YOU and your bandwagon of salesmen.It would appear by this statement you amke that the world pirates bleeding the american economy dry are so eleusive that the joint task forces of the world cannot find them. Am i to truly believe that they are so f**kin stupid that they cannot do their work properly and that only if you have complete control of the web that they will be successful.
Dodd notes that this protest comes only days after the White House said in a blog post it will not support legislation that "reduces freedom of expression, increases cybersecurity risk or undermines the dynamic, innovative global Internet."
What a total loser you are. have you not been paying attention to the groundswell under you feet. have you not been reading the papers or you do not have an internet connection. It has been an ongoing discussion for some time. The date was coincidental and dependant upon many more factors than your mind can comprehend. it is the ground swell and voice of those that were planning such a blackout that helped generate enough attention in the first place that helped the Whitehouse make such a statement after they listened to voices of reason within their own advisory group.
Since then supporters of the SOPA bill in the House and the Protect IP bill in the Senate have said they will consider making modifications to get the legislation passed.
Really....why repeat what we already know as you have done nothing but test the legal system and use synaptics to alter the implicit meaning of wording to find a manner in which to make palpable the simple reality that you and yours want control of the nets. Every court case ever made relating to piracy has been rewritten until successful.
“Only days after the White House and chief sponsors of the legislation responded to the major concern expressed by opponents and then called for all parties to work cooperatively together,” said Dodd,
Yup, and that is what we are doing you idiot. The blackout was a manner to call attention to your unjust and tyrannical views of how the nets should be policed controlled and censored. The blackout has created overnight a possible 20 millions voices of NAY. Oops, sorry we are supposed to stay mute dumb and docile whilst you dictate what can be said sen read and viewed. WAKE UP CALL
“some technology business interests are resorting to stunts that punish their users or turn them into their corporate pawns, rather than coming to the table to find solutions to a problem that all now seem to agree is very real and damaging.”
My God you make me want to spit. So many of these very businesses you state should come to the table have been trying for bloody years but they are not invited to the dinner and often as not are shown the door by your frigging bouncers. To repeat the last line "that all now seem to agree is very real and damaging" I cannot help but feel you have your head up your arse. many businesses have and repeatedly so that the issue of real piracy is to be treated with disdain and should be halted wherever possible but do not decapatate the head because of a headache. Obviously you are of the opinion that stubbing your toe means surgery and removal of the foot.
Google has said that it will not go dark but the tech giant will post on its home page information supporting those who want the bills altered or killed.
Dammed right and very sensible and maybe one of the best things Google has done in recent months.
A House committee is expected to resume working on the SOPA bill on Jan. 24, looking at dozens of amendments that have been proposed.
AHA, so no intention of really talking to those that were invited to the table but more a group of lawyers discussing how to reword the rejected and add a little make up so the old hag looks like a cute blond.
Since Dodd, formerly a Senator from Connecticut, took the MPAA job last year, he has made piracy and in particular passage of the two pending bills a central theme of his efforts on behalf of Hollywood’s most visible association in Washington.
Yup doing what he was paid to do....end of the day just another selfish individual pursuing the dream of wealth and power.
Much of the entertainment industry has rallied behind the legislation, along with the drug industry,
Got to laugh, sorry. The entertainment and drug industries. Drugs designed to keep us docile and movies with no brainer content to keep us happy. However to remain serious for a moment the fact that they rally behind it is because they designed it in the first place together with their respective lawyers.
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but in recent months opposition has been mounting from tech companies and advocates of keeping the Internet an open and free zone.
And here we come full circle. As Dodd was trying to implicate that it as suddenly we see the very last line mention months.
Well thats my little take on one article and as there are hundreds of them that i would like to rip apart I shall spare you that suffering as i think i have nothing new to add that many millions of voices around the web are saying right now. if these idiots want to fight I think they have finally got one and are now crying in their milk because they never expected the webs to have any teeth.
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After reading thru i feel it is important to add a couple more lines....yup. as if it was not long enough already.
Anyways. I think the situation as it stands right now can be a pivotal moment in internet history. The www has developed to a point where its netizens are connected. it is a truly global community. IH forums just a speck in the vastness is a true illustration of how borders culture and creed are left to one side and show how we from many locations around the world communicate in a manner that is comprehensible and defines a true aspect of humanity. that aspect being we are not that different. We have different walks in life and may have different levels of interaction to our respective communities. However we all discuss our opinions likes and dislikes on a level playing field.
This recent attempt by a small elite group trying to seize the web has provoked a response from around the world.
Enough is enough is pretty much the shout. The call to the worlds web users to read and learn what a select few are trying to implement is at last the power of the internet being used in a manner to create a true and global awareness of how fragile our freedoms really are.
That the actions and voices of a few with deep pockets and the ability to lobby elected officials and use persuasive argument has been exposed. That persuasive argument is no longer so straightforward when the eyes and ears of those being spoken to are suddenly made aware that the version they are hearing is not the only side to the discussion.
There are always two sides to any discussion. The vehement ranting of people as Dodd and their accusations of stupidity towards some of the webs leading innovators is an insult. It is a disgrace that an individual with such a level of responsibility can accuse sites as wikipedia being wrong and using gimmicks. A relatively recent study and analysis of content presented on the wiki pages was shown to be as accurate and more up to date than Britannica.
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Both publications had a number of errors, and both had roughly the same number of errors. According to Nature, Wikipedia had an average of 2.86 errors per article while Encyclopedia Britannica had an average of 2.92 mistakes per article.
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Now that fact alone equates in my mind to a simple observation.
The wiki desrves respect
and not the ramblings of an individual employed to get a bill passed that failed and is now whining and at this very moment has a team of people re writing what was so effectively discredited by sane and intelligent people.
It is in my mind also obvious that voices of many respected people as founders of wiki word press and google along with many others are now in a direct firing line. Their voices and integrity will be challenged. Already Murdoch who should be in jail is on a rampage and throwing around accusations that should be ignored as the rantings of a madman but because he has deep pockets and owns a media empire his voice is being heard. It is for these very reasons that the web stay free of control and censor otherwise we will all be subjected to the views and opinions of those that have control and any voice of dissent would be simply removed or edited out.
Anyways i think I have taken up enough of everyone's time and patience so time for johnno to go make a coffee.
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MPAA has more BS than brains, typical bully flex the muscle collar up the little guy, and when he finally hoof ya right square in the yarbles what do ya do ? So how did the yarbles, get garbled?
How they (Anon) did it, and the LowOrbitIonCannon (yes from C&C ) at sourceforge, is linked to at this site below. so for those developers that want to study the code...take the usual cautions with it
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/how-anonymous-took-down-the-doj-riaa-mpaa-and-universal-music-websites/1932
and how to try and harden against it
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/networking/how-to-try-to-stop-ddos-attacks/440
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and really the stupidity belongs to microsloath as they want to kill off XP by way of attrition (non support), instead of making a robust OS out of it. and this is why botnets continue to exist |
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yeah, sorry bout that tazzzz but needed to get it out of my system.
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I just want to say i am a supporter of isohunt.... I am scared isohunt might be next.
Because this might happen to the CEO or employees of isohunt too:
http://www.thewrap.com/media/article/megaupload-founder-discovered-barricaded-safe-room-gun-34644
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I want to say be strong, careful, and fearless. And hire lawyers/protectors ready.
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The priorities are all screwed......Dozens of Police and helicopters. What cost?
How many homes and disrupted families after earthquakes in Christchurch could have been fixed.? How many sick and infirm could have been helped.?
Mr Dotcom was in your face and wide open. Now the void is to be filled with people that keep a lower profile.
The sheer amount of money time and effort spent on the this type of action could surely have been better invested in offering alternative solutions for distribution and development of a sensible approach towards consumers.
Itunes rakes in billions of dollars in revenue from people who pay for what they want. Copy rights holders waste billions of dollars trying to control what is not controllable. |
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