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Post Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 5:06 am Reply with quote   Back to top    

maybe Anonymous could do something about this C-11 bill in Canada. said to be like SOPA, but much worse.

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 6:51 am Reply with quote   Back to top    

I think if nothing else, they bring attention to some of the causes they are fighting for. If some government or whatever is trying to pass some law or ruling and Anonymous crash a few websites or whatever, in protest, even if that achieves nothing else than to draw attention to said law or ruling, i think its a good thing. So ya i personally think they are a good thing Wink

They also give some lolz Very Happy
http://www.pcworld.com/article/249283/fbi_admits_anonymous_snooped_conference_call.html

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:42 am Reply with quote   Back to top    

I had the same opinion as trollster but to be honest I don't care anymore, Anonymous can pwn them as much as they want because it seems we can't even get a fair fight with these lobbyist assholes. The whole SOPA saga has proved that our rights are nothing but a nuisance to these people. I'm still pissed off from seeing that conference where they were joking about us all being geeks and saying nerd every other sentence. And these bastards want to rule the internet? I hope Anonymous DDoS the crap out of them for as long as they are in existence.

My only issue comes with "me too" groups who miss the point and just want to cause trouble. They are the ones who cause the problems as people just lump all hackers into one group. If you need proof of this just look at any news article that comes up on the subject. Anonymous is ALWAYS mentioned no matter who was responsible.

Anyway, screw the MPAA and their draconian ideals. If I had the power to crash their servers everyday then I would.

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 7:44 am Reply with quote   Back to top    

As with most things in life there's a right way and a wrong way. Attacking corporate and government servers in protest of whatever is the wrong way to go about it. This invokes fear into the masses , which in turn gives the government more leverage to create more laws in the false pretense of protecting the people. Yes I do believe that my government is the biggest terrorist of all. If you look at all the laws that were passed as a result of 911, and see the rights, and freedoms lost. Then you should understand that, what anonymous is doing is going to have a opposite effect than whatever they think they are achieving.
Now a good example of the right way to online protest made by Wikipedia has made a bigger splash in the media as late. Boycotting, and petitioning, and I believe number one is spreading the word to the masses. Educating people on the wrong doings by corporate and government officials will achieve much more than making DOS attacks on their servers.
I sign every petition I can and I use my real name, and email. And have gotten response letters back from the government. This to me is being a man, and standing up what I believe. Hiding behind a mask, and being anonymous to me says I don't like what your doing but I'm to scared to say it to your face. Anyway I apologize if I ruffled anybodies feathers with my original statement. One mans terrorist is another mans patriot, it's all a matter of prospective. My delinquent inner child applauds their mischievous actions, whilst my wary old self knows better, and that these actions just really are counter productive to the freedom of the web.

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:20 am Reply with quote   Back to top    

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Anonymous is ALWAYS mentioned no matter who was responsible.

it sorta reminds me how Muslim terrorists do something bad, and automatically Al Qaeda is mentioned as the key source even if the those terrorists did it on their own or in cahoots with them. although Muslim terrorists can't be compared to Anonymous, but the idea of just blaming someone on the basis that they do the same stuff as that other specific group so they must have a connection just seems ridiculous.

on certain cases i would agree with JamesHotwire. one instance is when Anonymous hacked PayPal at one point and a lot of people's valued info was made public. not a very good tactic imo.

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Post Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2012 8:24 am Reply with quote   Back to top    

JamesHotwire wrote:
As with most things in life there's a right way and a wrong way. Attacking corporate and government servers in protest of whatever is the wrong way to go about it. This invokes fear into the masses , which in turn gives the government more leverage to create more laws in the false pretense of protecting the people.


Ya thats the point I was trying to make

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Post Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2012 3:57 pm Reply with quote   Back to top    

bazzer101 wrote:
I think if nothing else, they bring attention to some of the causes they are fighting for. If some government or whatever is trying to pass some law or ruling and Anonymous crash a few websites or whatever, in protest, even if that achieves nothing else than to draw attention to said law or ruling, i think its a good thing. So ya i personally think they are a good thing Wink

They also give some lolz Very Happy
http://www.pcworld.com/article/249283/fbi_admits_anonymous_snooped_conference_call.html


I was read about that the other day lol

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Post Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 3:50 am Reply with quote   Back to top    

JamesHotwire wrote:
As with most things in life there's a right way and a wrong way. Attacking corporate and government servers in protest of whatever is the wrong way to go about it. This invokes fear into the masses , which in turn gives the government more leverage to create more laws in the false pretense of protecting the people.


Anonymous hacked greek Ministry of Justice website last Friday and the only thing that they didn't create was fear to the masses.Actually 'the masses' were really supportive towards this move and it was something that you can easily spot if you were browsing social networks and greek blogs that day.
How can a government create false laws claiming that they protect their people when people have already stated that they don't want to be protected?
Afterall no one was killed because somebody hacked a webpage...

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Post Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 4:41 am Reply with quote   Back to top    

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Afterall no one was killed because somebody hacked a webpage...


No but its another reason for Goverments to want to control the web Wink

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Post Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:00 am Reply with quote   Back to top    

So,we don't do anything in order not to give reasons to governments?

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Post Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:07 am Reply with quote   Back to top    

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So,we don't do anything in order not to give reasons to governments?


No you do it the right way so you give them no reason

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Post Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 5:19 am Reply with quote   Back to top    

I don't think there's a right way.If governments are looking for excuses they can find them everywhere - or better create them.

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Post Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2012 7:54 am Reply with quote   Back to top    

there is always a right way and a wrong way. a right way is to petition and getting the public aware. the wrong way is to profit from someone's right to privacy [Anonymous hacking PayPal] or taking it away [people in the gov't trying to give just reason to taking rights away]. i think that is what trollster meant.

http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16164146

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Private messages between the president and his advisers have been revealed by hacking group Anonymous

i guess this is where Anonymous did some good.

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Post Posted: Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:01 am Reply with quote   Back to top    

click on the link "Post new topic" to start a thread of your own. the file you are downloading might be from a private tracker/site. also if you give the hash code or link of the torrent we might be of more help.

by the way this is the wrong Sub-Forum. post it in the Files Chat Sub-Forum.
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